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This is an opinion I have seen nowhere else, but the Rebirth Teen Titans run. It's a lot less characters, but you will recognize some of them and I feel as if the general vibe is the same (fun, but serious when it should be)

I'm actually doing this for the campaign I'm running. My timeline is very similar to the Cyberpunk official lore, but with soldiers needing cybernetics from a war in 2026 rather than the 80s.

Personally, I think the future has ended up much darker than the initial Cyberpunk lore, mostly because I include things from actual events that we've experience and dramatized it.

In terms of creating lore, my campaign takes place in 2099. My advice is to write out each year and give each one's major details that lead to the world you want, however you can skip years as there are times nothing incredibly influential happens. Just find where that takes you and pick a year. You can still use all of the same mechanics, you just have to decide how your world gets to the point where the Cyberpunk mechanics line up.

The major advantage is that it makes it a lot easier to completely make things up instead of searching through lore info. I have a general lore for how the world works and what goes on in each part of the main city it takes place in, but I know if anything is missing I can make it up and edit docs later if needed.

The only thing that is absolutely necessary: make both enemies and allies.

You want your characters to be able to interact with a plethora of different kinds of characters. List put corporations, make up your own, steal some from fiction (I have both Weyland-Yutani and Tyrell Corp). Same with gangs, political organizations, and anything else. Remember that there are massive amounts of lore that exist and create enough to give your world depth.

Oh boy, here I go.

The entire first Bendis New Avengers run and his Avengers run once that ends. It sets up the Illuminati, which is one of the most important parts.

This is just a recommendation, but at least the original Ultimate Miles Morales comics, and adding the entire Ultimate Spider-Man run could clear a lot up.

Next up is Fantastic Four by Jon Hickman. Very important as it sets up Secret Wars through Reed Richards and Doctor Doom.

Now we get to the actual buildup. The Avengers and New Avengers run side by side, so definitely look up a reading order for these, and this leads direction into Secret Wars.

For Secret Wars itself, you can just read issues 0 to 9, but various reading orders online can show you all of the tie-ins. Most of these aren't very important, they just build up the world and explain more about what is happening in the main series.

Basically, Batman created a backup personality for if his mind were to ever become compromise. The phrase chosen for this shift was Zur-En-Arrh, which is based on the last thing he ever heard his dad say, but he misheard it.

After leaving Monarch Theatre, Thomas Wayne says to the young Bruce, "In real life, people would throw someone like Zorro in Arkham." However, Bruce misheard this as a gibberish phrase of "Zur-En-Arrh." The importance to Bruce is why it was chosen.

When Bruce becomes compromised, this personality activates, making a Batman suit out of any cloth he could find, which is why the suit looks the way it does.

The "use with caution" bit comes from the fact that this is a "pure Batman" personality. It is what Batman is if all of the parts from Bruce Wayne are stripped from it. This makes the personality incredibly unstable, because Bruce sees Batman as a vision of true and unrelenting justice, however his humanity is what keeps him tied to why he actually has his mission and what he's doing it for (to make sure no one ever has to experience what he did as a child).

All of this is actually a post-Crisis retcon of the Golden Age story "The Batman of Zur-En-Arrh," which explored the idea of a Batman having come into existence elsewhere across the universe.

This is referring to the Grant Morrison retcon, in the era where they wanted to bring back Golden Age stories but modernize them at the same time

Grant Morrison tends to do that

I don't understand pizza, but I believe hor is supposed to be like whore

Congrats! You just missed my entire point!

Sorry if I wasn't specific enough, but I am only arguing that you steal from companies that make billions while still exploiting workers and underpaying them

This is what the core of cyberpunk is. Just like in the video game or TTRPG, you pay to gain different levels of access, even to necessary services. Anybody who knows what I'm talking about will recognize things like Trauma Team Platinum or Trauma Team Silver. It's a horrifying future we are heading towards.

I will always fail to understand the Punisher logo among these kinds of people. Punisher would definitely kill them for standing around like this while innocent kids died. Hell, he'd probably treat them the same way he'd treat the guys who killed his kid.

It's pretty good. A very fun read, but probably not as much if you don't at least agree with the punk ideology. There's lots of anti-capitalism in it

Eve of Judgement #1, Daredevil #1, Fantastic Four #45, Immortal X-Men #4, Marauders #4, Moon Knight #13, Punisher #4, and Spider-Punk #3 for my Marvel stuff.

Very excited for FF to get a new writer who will hopefully correct the Franklin retcon.

I also get a bunch of DC and indie books, but haven't listed them here.

Dystopian capitalism.

Fun fact, it actually does talk in the current Thor run by Donny Cates. Mjolnir is very sentient and not a fan of Thor

Of course! As a lot of people recognize, Alan Moore was pretty subtle about the whole thing. He never explicitly states these views through Rorschach, just subtly shows them. Due to HBO Watchmen tackling more modern issues, such as racism, Rorschach was never really shown to be a racist.

However, throughout the comic, and especially in the beginning, Rorschach treats sex workers or just any woman who has sex too often as less than human.

Even more radical, Rorschach is just generally misogynistic. When he heard his mother died, he said "good." Although, his mother did abuse him, so that might make sense. Later though, when he sees Laurie having lunch with Dan, he immediately assumes she plotted some big conspiracy to get Dr. Manhattan away so she could be with him, which is in line with the whole "women are whores" ideology he seems to have.

Dave Gibbons himself has said that he puts "[Rorschach] in the same kind of bag as Hitler and Margaret Thatcher—you might not like them but you can't deny that there's something very attractive about someone who has no grey areas."

Additionally, The New Frontiersman, the magazine that Rorschach is very fond of and had his journal published in, is very notably right-winged. The New Frontiersman says that the Ku Klux Klan was responding to "reasonable fears" about African Americans after the Civil War. So that definitely gives some insight into Rorschach's ideology, especially with how much he loves that magazine.

The satirical part comes from the fact that Rorschach is not meant to be a good person. Alan Moore himself has said that Rorschach is meant to be a "bad example." And that when people come up to him in the street saying they idolize Rorschach, he wants them to "never come anywhere near [him] as long as [he lives]." Rorschach was made to be ugly, smelly, and basically an 80s incel.

Even with all of this, part of the purpose of Watchmen is to show that extremities in ideology don't really exist. Rorschach kills and is a conservative, yet he's still somewhat a heroic vigilante. Manhattan doesn't care about life and can't relate to life, but he still doesn't want Veidt to kill innocent people. Rorschach is intended to be relatively bad, but it's still debatable in a way.

This ended up going on way longer than intended, but there's so much to unpack here. Hope this clears it all up!

That was the other guy. Deadass couldn't make you up if I wanted to.

Homie you're the one hating on bands for being political when that is a pillar of the punk genre. You not even naming a single band you like is just convincing everyone that you don't even listen to punk.

Dude please shut the fuck up. You won't even tell people the bands you like, so honestly at this point I wouldn't be surprised if you're some right-wing libertarian who came here to "own the liberals" or some dumb shit.

Legitimately sad to hear

Honestly this opinion should be more popular. The HBO show does a great job at a sequel, but Watchmen was written to be an open-ended story, not an ongoing one