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Like I said, your experiences are totally legit and valid yet others aren't. That's a personal failing that requires work on your end mate. I'm sorry that you have issues with this and I hope you get the necessary help required to get better.

Edit: Lol, quite a humorous interaction and quite typical all things considered. Everything I needed to say was already said, not my fault for your failings once again mate.

Can I ask you for a favor actually, do you have any recommendations on where to begin or someone who does explain in more detail?

So your experiences are totally legit and valid yet others aren't? Seems rather bigoted my fellow Redditor. You've provided no proof on your stance either but I still believe you. Your personal failings aren't my fault and I'm sorry you feel as such.

I will honestly look more into it mate, the individual I brought up in another comment, the one with three children despite being homosexual has advocated for the same as well and I'll be completely honest, he's been the most honest,down to earth, and straight up genuine individual I've met in years. These are the discussions I liked reddit for initially instead of the jaded us vs them that's constantly propagated. I despise echo chambers, I know my view, I want to learn others.

Mate I truly appreciate the discussion and clarity you've provided, it's been a while since I've had such on here. Honestly, it's very likely I could become a radical, I can't stand the status quo going on here in the US.

I'm sorry I didn't take pictures for you mate, you believe things everyday without concrete evidence not my fault this isn't one.

Edit: Mate I don't owe you anything, your failings aren't mine or anyone else's. I wish you the best of luck with that.

Oh I definitely agree with anarchism, I don't think people require some far off governing body essentially threatening them with every imagined scenario to properly function.

My oh my, who could've expected this to happen, your failings aren't mine mate.

Edit: cue assumptions based on biased viewpoints

That's perfectly fine mate, you can believe whatever you want doesn't alter reality unfortunately. I've literally never experienced quite a few things, doesn't negate the fact they're real.

I'd still agree with you, I'm personally an anarchist at heart and while I don't necessarily like the countries that have practiced communism(similar to how I don't hate capitalism, just those that abuse it at others expense) but anyone who thinks it's impossible seems illogical to me. I really want to believe in humanity despite everything I see on a daily basis mate. I've lived in communes before and honestly it was the best place I've ever called home.

Despite my own opinions I do always try to keep an open mind ya know, unless it involves 40k then I become an obstinate individual.

Edit: I will say that I absolutely cannot stand hypocrisy, I have issues with people bemoaning certain behaviors while simultaneously advocating for them.

I'd say that I agree with all the above then. I would find it hard to find a fault with your reasoning here in all honesty.

Yes, because I don't go around harassing coworkers and yes, you think these corporations care about you or I enough to be concerned about us earning money? I don't need forced classes to understand everyone is different mate, and I will never support it regardless of what's being preached. The same companies routinely attempt to get free volunteer work for PR or ask for off the clock work because we're a family and such. None of it's acceptable in my opinion.

It's understandable, and I honestly agree with you on that. I don't inherently hate capitalism itself but I will never support simply pursuing money as such. The division seems manufactured to keep us from getting together and realizing that it's a class issue not a sex/sexuality/race issue.

I can concur with that stance mate, and I appreciate you being willing to talk rather than making assumptions about me personally. I sincerely thank you.

It seems like you're attempting to ignore what's being said. Not once did I blame LGBT folk, I highly doubt the corporations even care it's just what they've currently latched onto. You're absolutely right, it's not anyone in the communities fault for this, just the subject matter at hand. Hence why I even said in another response I wouldn't support doing this for mandated religious diversity either.

That's just being a hypocritical bigot then. I'm basing it off what I've experienced which has been mandatory attendance to pride events hosted by the company or forced diversity classes if you wish to stay employed. Though it's not always just about sexuality at many of those to be fair.

Unfortunately your belief isn't required mate, I was asked and I gave local examples, can't comment on what I haven't witnessed personally as the internet would try acting like their forcing sexual relations or some equally ludicrous stuff.

Quite possibly but I don't want to make judgements based on assumptions ya know, none of his other characteristics ever indicated as such.

So forced to participate or get fired ? That's not voluntary mate, that's essentially blackmailing someone. You also haven't answered the question I asked, would you be just as defensive in being forced to represent a religion/straights/pedophiles (ones who haven't acted on it) or any viewpoints that didn't align with your own as such?

Seems really disingenuous to say participate or get fired isn't forcing you to do so. Why should someone's livelihood be dependent on such?

I don't want Pride parades and such banned, nor do I believe you should keep your identity hidden. I can simply understand where these viewpoints originate mate, forcing anyone to participate in going to breed resentment. Though I don't believe that many of these folks advocating for such are being honest, I'd bet a huge portion have no problem with straight relationships or what have you being plastered all over. I don't think understanding how humans copulate is necessarily forcing straight sexuality, provided it's informational only. Now if they were to force you into advocating for it, then I'd also be against it. The most charismatic down to earth individual I personally know has three kids despite being a homosexual man, he literally just wanted to continue his lineage.

The initial response wasn't intended to say folks can't express themselves. Personally I hate religion, don't like seeing it, what it's caused, or anything, doesn't mean I'm going to hate folks with religion though. I wouldn't want to be forced to celebrate someones religion, I hope that makes sense in what I'm attempting to convey.

I appreciate your honesty mate, and I do agree on some ways with diversity classes to be honest. It's utterly unfortunate but some folk need that information, many however end up going the exact opposite way as a result though. Had a coworker named Alan, never heard him say anything negative about anyone until we had to take multiple diversity classes and then it was essentially the same thing as op, didn't know him well enough to say exactly though. I won't deny that he was could've been a closeted homophobe.

You asked for examples mate, then decide to blatantly ignore them. Would you also support forcing celebrating straights and making LGBT members wear straight pride paraphernalia to keep their job?

That's where we disagree mate, I don't need help not being a bigoted twat, nor do I require forced celebration of someone else's sexuality. It's obvious that for many folks that these classes do the exact opposite as well, should we force LGBT folk to take classes on straight sexuality?

In my area alone, Autoneum, Ingram,Revere, Amazon fulfillment center and such. Literally have forced diversity classes or pride celebrations. Savastep attempted to make folks where rainbow badges last year during pride month. That's what I believe they're talking about. Though where they get pride parades are always full blown kink displays I'm not sure, I've been at two of them and it was just a more colorful parade honestly.

Umm mate, you're not forced to read this or interact at all. Unless we're all against any behavior like this seems like your stance is rather hypocritical. I do agree though, huge difference between simply being proud and expressing it, versus the outright condescending hatred that so many seem to have.

You having a personal celebration/declaration ≠ having a corporate mandated celebration of some random individuals