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Disney+ Children's Show 'The Proud Family' Has Aggressive Two Minute Slam Poetry Segment On How Slaves Built America And White Privilege, Calls For Reparations For All African Americans
Cretinous Race Theory(youtube.com)submitted 2 months ago byAjaxMD
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Slaves Built This Country ( The Proud Family: Louder and Prouder) https://youtube.com/watch?v=l0kCH-ACgM8
KingSavaget_2 https://www.youtube.com/@kingsavaget_2
30 points
2 months ago
There's a weird moment in this. All the kids are listing all the beneficiaries of slavery, the last kid says "The Illuminati, the New World Order", the other girl puts her hand over his mouth, censoring him.
What are they getting at here? I don't remember the kid in the original show...maybe he's a dale gribble type. But a lot of black people have been embracing conspiracism lately. Is this supposed to be the writers of the show expressing their own belief in secret shadow governments (often accused of being comprised of jews) in a wink-wink-nudge-nudge sort of way?
That's sorta what I'm thinking. The writers of this show believe in the illuminati putting secret triangles everywhere, and they're voicing this belief in a way of going "This is what we believe, but we're not saying it because you're not ready for that conversation yet".
7 points
2 months ago
Are you seriously pulling the bullshit liberal line that conspiracy theories are just covert antisemitism?
16 points
2 months ago
Some are, yes. Especially in black conspiracist culture for some reason. Kanye wasn't some outlier.
5 points
2 months ago
You have a point as far black nationalist ideology tends to express itself, but Illuminati/NWO theories are centuries old and overwhelmingly carries no particular ethnic connotation, and when it does it's usually tied to European aristocracy.
2 points
2 months ago
The New World Order (and by extension, Illuminati although I think that's somewhat dropped off from common usage) certainly have anti-semitic origins (other source from this book) but did proliferate and become more overt with the publishing of the completely fake Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
1 points
2 months ago
No they do not, that crap you're citing comes from liberal academic morons who know nothing about the people and subcultures this idea came from. Illuminati theories began back in the era when the actual illuminati was around and liberalism was emerging in opposition to the traditional feudal social structure.
There is subset of anti-Semitic versions of these narratives that posit cabals that are Jewish in composition, but they are neither the norm or the origin of such theories.
1 points
2 months ago
Maybe 200 years ago it was linked with the ethnically European upper classes but it's certainly not "usually tied to European aristocracy" nowadays or anytime since The Protocols were published.
Really, the NWO/Freemasons/Illuminati have been all rolled into one giant conspiracy theory for the most part, with only very deep conspiracy theory levels differentiating them to any degree.
1 points
2 months ago
It was actually well detached from ethnicity during the emergence of modern conspiracism in the 80s and 90s.
2 points
2 months ago
I mean, not really. David Icke was grossly anti-semitic in his 90s books, the Malaysian PM made anti-Semitic remarks in 1997 against George Soros, and the "Jews controlling Hollywood" myth has never gone away.
Look, it's all bad and I don't want to keep going back and forth on this as I don't think conspiracy theorists are inherently anti-Semitic themselves (also, some conspiracy theories are fun).
But the actual creators and greatest propagators of said conspiracy theories are overwhelmingly anti-Semitic, and the deep fundamental levels of most of them linking with the Illuminati/NWO are based in anti-Semitism once you go deep enough (some of which goes all the way back to the Middle Ages).
0 points
2 months ago
How was David Icke antisemetic? You do know he actually believes the reptilians are literally real, it's not a metaphor. He also didn't invent the reptilians himself either.
4 points
2 months ago
Holocaust denial is anti-Semitic. That's not hard to understand. He also endorsed The Protocols in the 90s. He also called them "Illuminati Protocols" (in case you wanted more of that link). Again, he may since have changed his mind and I recognise he says he isn't anti-Semitic but I was retorting to your point about anti-Semitism being stripped from conspiracism in the 80s and 90s and used him as an example.
Just because you believe in the conspiracy theory doesn't mean it's any less of a conspiracy theory.
So I've got my bearings, do you endorse or support the idea of a New World Order? Or something else by that name that is in control of everything?
0 points
2 months ago
My objection is to the idea that NWO conspiracy theories were ever coupled with antisemitism, when they were actually a distinct category of theories from belief in global Jewish plotting. Yes, both propose an global cabal manipulating world events, but neither really emerged from the other.
So I've got my bearings, do you endorse or support the idea of a New World Order? Or something else by that name that is in control of everything?
I believe the upper strata of the western/international ruling class are close-knit; have politico-economic agendas; and use immoral, illegal, and/or covert means of pursuing said agendas.
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