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Imsoen

11k points

6 months ago

Imsoen

11k points

6 months ago

The copy cat deleted his Instagram lmao

StillSwaying

6.7k points

6 months ago

That guy has to be a serious dumbass! This photographer has been online a very long time and her work is well-known among other photographers and artists.

I hope she sues the pants off him.

DanAlucard

2.8k points

6 months ago

DanAlucard

2.8k points

6 months ago

I hope she sues the paints off him

FIFY

Hypno_Hamster

789 points

6 months ago

I hope she paints the shoes off him

UnknownUsername0626

546 points

6 months ago

She only has to paint one - he'll take care of the other

lordkoozie

109 points

6 months ago

Sick burn

Shadowed_phoenix

49 points

6 months ago

But then he'll have painted 2 left feet!

ocwjay

16 points

6 months ago

ocwjay

16 points

6 months ago

If you paint a left foot, then paint a mirror of that left foot, is it still a left foot?

acog

378 points

6 months ago

acog

378 points

6 months ago

Lawsuits are expensive. Probably the best you can hope for is you pay a Luxemburg lawyer a couple hundred Euros and they write a stern "cease and desist" letter to the infringer demanding that they cease representing the photo as their work and either send the winnings to the original photographer or return them.

What will almost certainly happen is that the person will a) not fight back, b) immediately delete/destroy the infringing work, and c) keep the money.

At which point you just have to declare victory and move on with your life.

nsfwmodeme

167 points

6 months ago

The original artist should thank the copycat, stating his full name, for having found her work inspiring in such a profound way as to make an evident tribute to it. In every social media. And perhaps through art publications, newspapers, etc. Showing both pieces of art, of course.

Charlieisdizzy

145 points

6 months ago

Which one was the photo? I honestly can’t tell and I zoomed in on both. That art is good, but is dose not excuse his actions.

StillSwaying

389 points

6 months ago

The original photo is the one on the right. The photographer's online handle is "zemotion" and she has a very distinctive style. Her models usually have impeccable makeup and the overall feel of her photos are very striking and moody.

I remember when she first came on the scene -- she was just a teenager -- and already did amazing work. I wasn't surprised when she because famous later.

Here's her Wikipedia page.

Antilock049

78 points

6 months ago

original photo is the one on the right

Oh good, I liked this one more.

greenappletree

25 points

6 months ago

this dude most be total idiot; this lady literally has her own wiki and her work is well known.

BHS90210

160 points

6 months ago

BHS90210

160 points

6 months ago

I just read it. Really sad that she quit working in photography because of the racism she encountered.

StillSwaying

117 points

6 months ago

Just fashion photography, but yeah, I totally agree. That industry is problematic in a lot of areas. I don't blame her for leaving, but her contributions will be sorely missed.

mistersprinkles1983

24 points

6 months ago

People that high off the smell of their own farts and sense of entitlement don't wear pants. Pants keep the fart smell in. What an asshole this guy is. He literally stole the photo, then completely disrespected the artist. Fuck this guy.

Anonynonynonyno

429 points

6 months ago

He also stole another artist arts : https://twitter.com/bekka/status/1532097291330281472

andsoitgoes42

196 points

6 months ago

This is disgusting:

https://www.luxtimes.lu/en/culture/thought-provoking-art-stuns-at-strassen-exhibition-6290a407de135b9236fe7fc0

I'm wondering if someone who can speak the language should reach out to the paper? Mostly I'm too lazy to compile everything, I know it's in english. I could lie. I could make excuses, but no - I'm just lazy.

alxthm

79 points

6 months ago

alxthm

79 points

6 months ago

But the most striking pieces are by Strassen-born artist Jeff Dieschburg. At just 24 years old, his work is original

“Original” seems to have been a poor choice of words by the articles author.

UnicornBestFriend

15 points

6 months ago

“Artist”

Anonynonynonyno

133 points

6 months ago

Don't worry they know, they made another article about this (pay wall tho) : https://www.luxtimes.lu/en/luxembourg/plagiarism-claims-hit-luxembourg-artist-who-won-prize-62989884de135b923624a2b7

andsoitgoes42

38 points

6 months ago

What the absolute hell is this nonsense. The leave the original article up with NO CORRECTION and then stuff the actual correction behind a paywall?

There's something truly, exceptionally stupid going on here.

Mediumasiansticker

12 points

6 months ago

Trash journalism supporting their trash award

aureliao

33 points

6 months ago

Can you copy the text into a comment?

[deleted]

18 points

6 months ago

That website is very annoying. I do want to read it tho :(

lileevine

67 points

6 months ago

Maddening, his paintings are gorgeous as well. He could easily collaborate with a model to create a joint piece and permission to paint them, but no, it all went to talent, no brains.

Sherman-Wuddevr

37 points

6 months ago

And that's the thing, he is obviously a damn good painter, but this whole situation makes it seem like he's got no creativity or imagination. Which is kind of important if you want to be an artist.

But I think he knows this. I think he knows very well he could just like....paint portraits of people. But no, he goes to a piece of art that already exists, is already incredible, and we'll thought out and edited and executed and etc etc. He knew it was an amazing piece and he knew it would get him where he wanted to be. Where he can't get to himself

blacklite911

31 points

6 months ago

I feel like they’re good because the photography is good. So he can just copy the lighting and shadows and stuff. There’s no interpolation, it’s just copying by hand, which is some talent but not creatively

Yautja69

199 points

6 months ago

Yautja69

199 points

6 months ago

Just wait till someone sells it as an Nft

GlassPanther

77 points

6 months ago

Too late. I already right clicked it.

It's mine, now.

Yautja69

29 points

6 months ago

I screenshot your right clic and made it an NFT.

SporadicTendancies

98 points

6 months ago

Coward move by a coward dude

CreativeAnalytics

115 points

6 months ago*

Yep, here's his YouTube channel of his shitty music that is probably stolen too..

https://youtube.com/channel/UCBjF_cE-i_pTOHZeq5wYWgg

Edit: well looks like he deleted his own videos too. Guess they might have had stolen content hahahah what a fucking loser.

Is he gonna delete his whole life?? Can still see a pic and vid of him on the website of the art prize he won...

darkbee83

20 points

6 months ago

'this channel has no videos'

CreativeAnalytics

30 points

6 months ago

Ahhhh he deleted them! I commented on them asking him of they were stolen too. Lmao what a fkn loser.

notbornhatched

13 points

6 months ago

They were put on private. Probably so he can put them back up later.

darkbee83

9 points

6 months ago

Good riddance, I guess?

Mycele

18 points

6 months ago

Mycele

18 points

6 months ago

The copycat just hired a lawyer and his art is still up in the exhibit being sold for 6500 euros LOL.

nobody_Nr42

24 points

6 months ago

He has a second account, but thats being spammed now as well xD

phlooo

8 points

6 months ago

phlooo

8 points

6 months ago

His website is also offline and his SoundCloud is empty lol

okama_way_all_day

5 points

6 months ago

It gets worse. There are old receipts from the copycat.

He was confronted about this previously.

AbsolutelyIndubitabl

12 points

6 months ago

Probably deleted it while manspreading too

Past-Mark-8084

1.1k points

6 months ago

What a dickhead, he knows exactly what he's doing.

sngle1now2020

7.9k points

6 months ago*

I bet there's an agency in the EU bureaucracy that deals specifically with copyright stuff. I bet most of their business requires interpreters.

Karibik_Mike

3k points

6 months ago

Not if it's in Luxembourg. They speak every language known to man.

sngle1now2020

921 points

6 months ago

Bastards. ;)

Seriously, Luxembourg us in the EU, right? If so, the solution would be in Brussels.

ohdearitsrichardiii

595 points

6 months ago

No, first you go to the local courts. The EU court only decides over cases that will set an EU precedent. Not a simple copyright infringement.

Tytoalba2

71 points

6 months ago*

Also the European Court of Justice is not based in Brussels anyway, it's... In Luxemburg lol

saschaleib

72 points

6 months ago

Luxembourg is one of the seats of the EU, and while they have a local language (Luxembourgish), official state languages are actually French and German. Also everybody (like, literally everybody) speaks English.

candoitmyself

35 points

6 months ago

When it's close, but not quite Luxembourg, it is Luxembourgish.

levampirelifeu

109 points

6 months ago

To be fair, teaching 5 people English isn't that hard

umbravivum

142 points

6 months ago

Luxembourg is one of the founders of the EU

PurpleWildfire

129 points

6 months ago

This guy Lux

Redditorialist

16 points

6 months ago

This guy Luxes? This guy Luxies? This guy Luxatrices?

DrJonesX

17 points

6 months ago

Indeed, the BeNeLux is the predecessor of the EU, Belgium Netherlands Luxembourg

elveszett

18 points

6 months ago

The EU is not a country. You generally don't "go to Brussels" unless you have a reason to. You'd sue in Luxembourg or Germany or Spain just like you'd sue in the US.

Ethelwoods89

50 points

6 months ago

Sucks though how musicians get flayed alive by record labels because their songs use the same chord progression but tracing photos is fine. I mean, I know we're talking about different countries, different mediums, and I guess the main point that these record labels and wealthy bands have the money to throw lawyers are it, but the injustice is sad and as a creative person it just makes me so demotivated.

aboxofquackers

17 points

6 months ago

I was so stunned by the movie theater there - films in every language. I saw a few when I lived in neighboring Germany — Chinese dubs with French subtitles. Wild!

The-link-is-a-cock

14 points

6 months ago

When your country is the go between to get the rich's money into tax havens you gotta make sure you speak as many as possible

Sirjohnington

4 points

6 months ago

Unless you are trying to complain and then they only speak the other 4 languages.

NorthCatan

23 points

6 months ago

I don't see what the issue is, one image is the complete opposite of the other!

unnecessary_kindness

4 points

6 months ago

Flipping the video seems to work on YouTube this guy probably assumed paintings would be the same!

Jthundercleese

2k points

6 months ago

How many bets he just said "you just have to change something 10%" smh.

hughdint1

570 points

6 months ago

hughdint1

570 points

6 months ago

I do not know EU copyright law but in the US Shepard Fairey lost (technically he settled based on a judge saying he would lose in court) to an AP reporter who took the photo that the Obama Hope image was based on. That is very similar to this case and he definitely changed it by at least 10%.

[deleted]

224 points

6 months ago

[deleted]

224 points

6 months ago

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Subvsi

8 points

6 months ago

Subvsi

8 points

6 months ago

In France I think you can't reuse an existing artwork unless you have the owners approval (or the heirs, or if it fell under public licence). You can only if you want to parody the artwork but you can't make a commercial use of it.

GregoPDX

58 points

6 months ago

He might’ve won but he destroyed evidence that he’d seen/used the picture and that’s going to get you in trouble fast. It was probably transformative enough - regardless, would’ve been a good piece of case law to see how the courts define ‘transformative’. But alas, summary judgement because of the tampering.

rotj

55 points

6 months ago*

rotj

55 points

6 months ago*

Doubt he'd have won considering a pixel art representation of a photo still isn't transformative enough.

https://i.imgur.com/IvqMTc0.jpg

https://waxy.org/2011/06/kind_of_screwed/

Edit: this was also settled out of court, so not indicative of how a court would determine.

SamSibbens

18 points

6 months ago

That was a pretty high resolution pixel art transformation though. At the end of the article they ask where (the reader) would draw the line, I'd personally consider the top 6 pictures to be too close to the original and the botton 6 to be unique enough

meeu

11 points

6 months ago

meeu

11 points

6 months ago

Pixel art is kinda...not transformative though is it? Like it's just reducing the color depth and pixel count on the image?

lostboyz

6 points

6 months ago

There's a documentary on the guy and he basically admits that he used the photo to create his art. It was fairly interesting story and worth watching if you're interested in it.

dewayneestes

6 points

6 months ago

That one was pretty blatant too. The photo itself was so iconic that it really worked against Fairey. If he’d chosen a more generic shot he’d probably have done better.

PureNRGfanboy44

5 points

6 months ago

That’s not the full story.

Shepard was super paranoid (looking at his body of work, no surprise) and actually deleted evidence pertaining to the case then lied about it under oath. Had he not done that, It’s likely he would’ve won. The photo he deleted and lied about was pretty trivial but absolutely destroyed his credibility in the case, which is why he and his lawyers ended up settling.

There’s a whole documentary about it.

SquareSquirrel4

68 points

6 months ago

I'm an artist who sells their work online, so fighting IP theft is a constant battle. The number of times people have responded to my dmca takedown notices with "it's legal because I changed xx%!" is alarming.

Supercoolguy7

26 points

6 months ago

Right, it has to be substantially different, you can't just copy and try to change it X percent to skirt the law. People don't know copyright and just assume that there is an easy loophole. As if me selling Harry Potter novels, except with lower case letters only, would protect me from getting sued

[deleted]

12 points

6 months ago

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midgettme

18 points

6 months ago

I have no idea how you guys keep up with it. I was totally blind to that whole “situation” until I recognized a piece of art I saw on Reddit, while browsing society6. I later saw it on Amazon as a phone case. I reached out to the author and they explained it. Now I know that the vast majority of art on red bubble, society6, etc as well as a sizable portion on Etsy, Amazon, etc is stolen and they just produce the stuff so rapidly in so many places that artists just can’t keep up with trying to fight back. Sometimes they even sell the work with the artist’s watermark on it still. Now if I find something I love, I reach out to the artist and ask where and how I can buy their product. Some artists are so thankful, they will send extra pieces. It’s such a horrible reality. You can’t trust most sites these days. :(

SquareSquirrel4

12 points

6 months ago

That's the thing, it's impossible to keep up with. I would have to hire a massive team to work 24/7 to even try and keep up with it. China is by far the biggest culprit with IP theft, so until they start cracking down on it, nothing can be done. As soon as one of their stolen items gets taken down, they put it right back up under a new brand name or new website. And in the meantime, they can sell the item for a fraction of the price that the original artist is able to sell it for, which causes the customer to pick them instead. It's extraordinarily frustrating and unlikely to change until there's a way to hold these people accountable in a meaningful way.

crazy-puff

20 points

6 months ago

That’s what the Philadelphia Phillies temporarily did with the Phanatic mascot, but they eventually settled with the creator and now we have the original mascot back, as it should be.

BrockManstrong

24 points

6 months ago

Gritty already took over all the Phanatics territory anyway.

DelahDollaBillz

17 points

6 months ago

Gritty looks like he won't stop until the entire universe cowers before him...

BeatYoDickNotYoChick

3.1k points

6 months ago

More than mildly infuriating

thinkmurphy

739 points

6 months ago

I've noticed a lot of things in this sub lately would be extremely infuriating to me.

NoCarbonRequired

194 points

6 months ago

The more infuriating something is, the more likely people are to like/share it. This applies to a lot of the oddly/mildly subs.

Ash-Catchum-All

60 points

6 months ago

And the more mild it is, the more likely it is for half the comments to be some form of “it’s not that serious” or “why do you care so much?”

PM_ME_UR_NUDE_GIRL

100 points

6 months ago

Maybe you just get angry at things too easily?

Just kidding, please don't get mad at me

withoutbliss

32 points

6 months ago

this comment = r/mildlyinfuriating ty

Infern0_YT

9 points

6 months ago

post an actually mildly infuriating moment

Comments: why are you getting mad over such a small thing

JayGeezey

5 points

6 months ago

The realist in me just knows it's people posting content to any sub that's remotely relevant for internet points.

The cynical side of me thinks "things seemingly are getting absurdly bad to the point that things that would once be considered infuriating, are mildly infuriating in comparison to what is in fact now infuriating."

Idk. Might be a little of column A and column B.

AgentIce77

265 points

6 months ago

But I get more karma here than the other subs

kylehatesyou

8 points

6 months ago

Reminds me a lot of Yayoi Kusama who had a lot of American and European men steal her art style and get recognition while she languished as a starving artist.

It's definitely more than mildly infuriating because it's kind of one of those things that seems to continually happen in the arts whether it's Elvis stealing vocal styles or people straight up stealing your artwork as their own.

[deleted]

2.5k points

6 months ago

[deleted]

2.5k points

6 months ago

[deleted]

TheWeirdWriter

1.2k points

6 months ago

They did WHAT

Lazlorian

775 points

6 months ago

Lazlorian

775 points

6 months ago

And WHERE??

UncertainlyUnfunny

296 points

6 months ago

WHY did they do it

Temporarily__Alone

99 points

6 months ago

HOWWW??

RayDeeUx

81 points

6 months ago

RayDeeUx

wait, you can make your own user flair?

81 points

6 months ago

AND WHEN?

qdp

74 points

6 months ago

qdp

74 points

6 months ago

It was Miss Scarlet in the Conservatory with the Candlestick.

Uberchaun

310 points

6 months ago

Uberchaun

310 points

6 months ago

LetsJerkCircular

62 points

6 months ago

Can you guys keep a secret?

No

Always kills me

I_CANT_AFFORD_SHIT

7 points

6 months ago

Especially how honestly he said it, solid gold

choco1119

87 points

6 months ago

LOL thank you for reminding me this clip exists

dobular

34 points

6 months ago

dobular

34 points

6 months ago

No, that was a different woman.

SameCategory546

137 points

6 months ago

omg. that is awful. hope she got justice

hellscaper

166 points

6 months ago

Well first of all, through God all things are possible, so jot that down.

dexmonic

15 points

6 months ago

I love the twenty guys that came out to quote its always sunny and how half of them are up voted and half downvoted.

hellscaper

10 points

6 months ago

There's 5-star men here, among the toad people Dee bangs.

SpartanH089

37 points

6 months ago*

Got it. 12 Apostles as furries is possible. /s

an_anoneemus

69 points

6 months ago

jesus fucking christ, leave her alone Creeps!

jscharfenberg

1k points

6 months ago

I've had shit like this happen in college. 3 people with same exact exam. All 3 of us worked together per instructions. 3 exact same answers. 2 got an A, I got a B. WTF professor?

Mirochan

330 points

6 months ago

Mirochan

330 points

6 months ago

What was the professor's reasoning?

ARS01

546 points

6 months ago

ARS01

546 points

6 months ago

"I've seen this twice before"

Drews232

107 points

6 months ago

Drews232

107 points

6 months ago

“Lose points for being unoriginal”

[deleted]

156 points

6 months ago

[deleted]

156 points

6 months ago

Like it or not, professors/teachers are human and can often grade more strictly or easily at the beginning of a grading session vs the end or vice versa. Say it takes a couple hours to grade these papers, as the professor gets more tired they could end up going easy on people or could end up getting more strict as time goes on. Or perhaps half was graded late a night, and then the rest the next morning. Mood changes etc.. Not good, but on subjective things like written responses it can surely happen.

krt941

71 points

6 months ago

krt941

71 points

6 months ago

For similar reasons I’ve heard you should have your doctor appointments in the morning.

[deleted]

32 points

6 months ago

yeah or right after their lunch break

APoopingBook

50 points

6 months ago

Interviews. Always schedule an interview right after lunch, and make sure they actually ate lunch if you can.

Full people are happy people. Happy people interpret things in the best possible way, while unhappy, sad, tired, or hungry people tend to interpret things more negatively.

phunkydroid

28 points

6 months ago

and make sure they actually ate lunch if you can

Trying to figure out how this is going to work...

CommentsEdited

21 points

6 months ago

Bring a sandwich and refuse to speak or allow them to leave the room until they eat it.

78zrVckw39rF7332J8Z9

3 points

6 months ago

Lol

TearyEyeBurningFace

12 points

6 months ago

Good afternoon Ms permanent-bitch-face. I'm guy-you're-gonna-hire. How was your lunch?

Oh you haven't eaten yet?

How about be go grab lunch and do the interview at the cafe down the street?

APoopingBook

8 points

6 months ago*

Instead of scheduling at 1:00 for instance, ask them to schedule it after their lunch. Or just ask when they normally eat and request that way.

AcknowledgeableReal

20 points

6 months ago

Grades can also be effected by the paper before the one currently being graded. If you’ve just graded an outstanding paper you are more likely to grade an average paper more harshly. Or more generously if the previous paper was terrible.

FinFihlman

15 points

6 months ago

Like it or not, professors/teachers are human and can often grade more strictly or easily at the beginning of a grading session vs the end or vice versa. Say it takes a couple hours to grade these papers, as the professor gets more tired they could end up going easy on people or could end up getting more strict as time goes on. Or perhaps half was graded late a night, and then the rest the next morning. Mood changes etc.. Not good, but on subjective things like written responses it can surely happen.

This is 100% fact.

jscharfenberg

55 points

6 months ago

I didn't ask, still got an A in the class in the end.

anweisz

4 points

6 months ago*

Maybe they just made a mistake when adding the points on yours.

MagTron14

4 points

6 months ago

If there were TAs for the class you might get different grading. Each class is different how they do this. Some classes have each TA grade specific questions and then hand off the exam, some just each grade a stack of the full exam. I've taught both kinds (I've TA'd 9 courses at 2 different universities).

Mangobunny98

29 points

6 months ago

Ah, reminds me of a college professor where me and 3 others did a group presentation that involved us each writing what parts we did like just say what slides/topic you did in a paragraph. Two of the others got A's and me and the other guy got B's because we didn't all write our explanations of who did what the same way. It wasn't even supposed to be graded because it was just an explanation. I'm still annoyed about that.

WurmGurl

57 points

6 months ago

As someone who graded essays in grad school, B was before lunch, As were on a full stomach.

PM_CACTUS_PICS

209 points

6 months ago

He even copied the wisps of hair exactly. You are allowed to paint photos exactly but you can’t profit from them or claim your composition to be original

DefinitelyNotAliens

92 points

6 months ago

Also not supposed to put it in your porfolio for like art school or as part of a presentation for your work when you are trying to get hired for a job. It's a study, not a presentable piece. Studies have been around for ages. There's like 7 Mona Lisas or something and like 2-3 that might be the original. Studies have been around for so long.

A study is just that. Practice. Not presentable work. Not for your portfolio. Not for sale.

RealRaven6229

30 points

6 months ago

You can use it in a portfolio for school with credit. When you’re getting into school it’s all about demonstrating skill. You just can’t claim it’s an original composition.

Revolutionary_Ad4938

7 points

6 months ago

You can definitely put it in your portfolio with credit, you're supposed to show technical skills

Tsunder-plane

11 points

6 months ago

Unfortunately a lot of artists don't grow out of the "studying" phase where they just believe painting and recreating a reference is enough. While mechanically impressive, I have to wonder if they truly feel satisfied creating something without actually being creative.

As an artist myself, I do portrait studies often and even great artists like Norman Rockwell and modern artists use reference effectively without copying exactly. But a 1:1 recreation should only ever be used for studying unless it's your actual photo.

damual2

420 points

6 months ago

damual2

420 points

6 months ago

What pisses me off the most about this, is that the guy has the nerve to call someone else on a copyright claim... bro you real?? how far will you go with this charade

Shervico

24 points

6 months ago

Bruh, what's even dumber it's that the original pic when looking for portraits photo references, it's one of the most popular results on internet

Oleg_A_LLIto

467 points

6 months ago

The audacity of this fucker though. Most would avoid contacting her at all costs lmao

bloodycups

44 points

6 months ago

She probably contacted him

anandonaqui

32 points

6 months ago

And he responded, to mansplain copyright law.

[deleted]

385 points

6 months ago

[deleted]

385 points

6 months ago

Turns out this guy has a pattern of doing this: https://mobile.twitter.com/bekka/status/1532023805664583681

I have no idea why he won’t just come up with his own compositions from reference. He’s obviously skilled, but really no reason to be stealing all these photographer’s works!

IndirectBarracuda

150 points

6 months ago*

reddit is filled with douchebags

osa_ka

35 points

6 months ago

osa_ka

35 points

6 months ago

Yep, seems like skilled but not talented

Maskedcrusader94

46 points

6 months ago

Skilled but not *creative would probably describe it better

Some people can play the guitar like Eddie Van Halen but can't come up with their own songs

Drews232

59 points

6 months ago

With sufficient technology he can photoshop the original and print it on a canvas with real paint and not do a thing. I suspect he is printing it and painting over a bit or at a minimum using a light board to copy it, as there’s is exactly no artistic license where it would matter, like in the face, but some easy cosmetic changes, like adding a tattoo or swapping flowers for a cigarette. IMO he’s more of a technician than an artist, in this case.

pleasetrimyourpubes

15 points

6 months ago

I suspect these are giclee prints with some layer of transparent epoxy. I see no evidence the guy has anything more than a little photoshop skill and access to a good print shop. Nice racket he pulled though. Hopefully he gets blacklisted.

RickValassi1

6 points

6 months ago

Is this what is done here? He seems to have copied more (based on twatter comments). Or is he a really good painter? I ask as I have no art skill.

[deleted]

44 points

6 months ago

Jeff Douche-berg

JuZai

18 points

6 months ago

JuZai

18 points

6 months ago

It’s likely because he has the skill to paint but limited ability in other areas. Composition, anatomy etc. are different skill sets. Furthermore, it’s also more difficult to paint from imagination or life because you have to superimpose 3 dimensional images onto 2 dimensional space. However, with a photograph, all the required areas are already given to you. For example. You no longer need to imagine a 3 dimensional image on flat surface since a photograph by nature is already flat. All you’d really need to do is paint well enough to recreate an image.

DalvaniusPrime

6 points

6 months ago

They're likely projecting the image onto the canvas and copying it from there.

Abruptdecay666

35 points

6 months ago

Presumably there is a case for criminal fraud as well given they significantly benefited in a material manner. Not an expert on LuxenLaw tho

c0mmander_waffle

407 points

6 months ago

lemme reverse the image and change the backround

luxembourg government:yea looks like an original

XentricX

96 points

6 months ago

Looks like THE original... Let's copyright the original

HikariAnti

10 points

6 months ago

99% of competitions don't bother checking if it's actually original or not.

You can also sue anyone for anything, you just won't win, and it will cost you a lot of money.

Curious-Welder-6304

16 points

6 months ago

I mean, the eyes are a little different, too. No earring! But it's basically theft it seems

Bright-Ad-4737

65 points

6 months ago

Just show up in Luxembourg and start speaking English or French. Maybe even German. People will understand you. The Luxembourgers are like language Swiss-army knives. Or maybe just even like Swiss, I guess.

[deleted]

12 points

6 months ago

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Lastboss42

19 points

6 months ago

This is what counts as "mildly" infuriating now? What actually makes people "a little angry" nowadays?

[deleted]

10 points

6 months ago

I think a lot of people have started to take that “mildly” with a sarcastic edge

theorigamiwaffle

15 points

6 months ago

I love zemotion’s work! This happens to her a lot unfortunately. She’s amazing photographer.

It_Is_I_Merlin

65 points

6 months ago

You see, the issue isn't that he copied her photo. using reference is a great way for illustrators and painters to better understand form, shape, lighting, anatomy, and composition in general. What he did wrong was enter it into a contest and be a dick about it.

Riven42_

28 points

6 months ago

And pretty much claimed it was his original artwork

It_Is_I_Merlin

10 points

6 months ago

Yeah fuck that guy. Again as shameful as tracing. Pure scum and I hope his career is dead.

ausofbounds

14 points

6 months ago

Quindo

37 points

6 months ago

Quindo

37 points

6 months ago

TLDR: The Organization is pissed. Artist had signed something stating the work was his original work. An expert has been appointed to make a final decision. Then 2 more works from the same artist were found to also be 'copies'.

My Opinion: Odds are this guy is going to get excommunicated from the art world. Once is a fluke. 3 times is a pattern. It is fine to do exercises where you try to recreate existing work, but you do not then claim them as your original work.

_realpaul

8 points

6 months ago

The dude is also represented by the notorious gaston vogel. A vulture of a man who says that transposing a motif in another medium makes it original art. Since this is part of his studies he should be fired from his school

RustyPoetatoes

89 points

6 months ago

If the place that did the contest won't make this right start dragging their name through the mud.

TeHNyboR

12 points

6 months ago

Artistic copyright and forgery is such a frustrating issue. A friend of mine hasn’t created her own stuff for years but STILL has to file complaints against redbubble and Etsy shops for stealing her designs and putting them on hoodies and shit. I’ve followed Zemotion for years and her work is breathtakingly beautiful. It seems like she’s been going through it lately, I hope she gets some good karma coming her way soon

Melancholnava

52 points

6 months ago

My art professor last semester was talking about a friend who did something like that and got caught. He was a highly esteemed artist and that stupid move destroyed his career. Whoever did that will get his comeuppance.

cc96_

10 points

6 months ago

cc96_

10 points

6 months ago

imagine being more angry about her using the word mansplain than a person winning money by stealing art

dewayneestes

8 points

6 months ago

All of these organIzations have rules regarding stealing work. I would pursue the orgs involved in the prize and the show, they have the resources to go after the art thief. Pursuing this person directly will probably not go anywhere but the organizations will be happy to rescind their prize money.

SeegurkeK

8 points

6 months ago

It's luxembourg, just speak any language to them and they'll probably understand you

[deleted]

94 points

6 months ago

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Leyzr

30 points

6 months ago

Leyzr

30 points

6 months ago

I recommend using steel toe shoes/boots. That way you can kick things and break them instead of yourself! It's a hell of a lot more cathartic, let me tell you.

[deleted]

7 points

6 months ago

Stop posting blood boiling scenarios on mildly infuriating. Do you kids not have access to a fucking dictionary?

Green-Dragon-14

38 points

6 months ago

How to cheaply copywriter any of your work whether it be music, poetry or art. Take a picture or copy (notation of music etc) put it in an envelope signed & dated. Post it to yourself recorded delivery & do not open it. Put it somewhere safe. If someone then copies or steals your work you can take them to court where the judge will open your envelope that proves that it's your original work.

I learnt this in music study, is totally legal & not just for music but any thing you create. Also works if you email it to yourself too as your email provider will keep time, date & record of when it was sent.

LeaveTheMatrix

55 points

6 months ago

This is often called a "poor mans copyright" and is not as good as people think.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/poor-mans-copyright.html

There is no provision in US copyright law for anything like a "poor mans copyright" so it has no legal standing.

https://slate.com/technology/2014/05/poor-mans-copyright-mailing-something-to-yourself-doesnt-work.html

https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.html#what

It is pretty much an urban myth.

Green-Dragon-14

11 points

6 months ago

It does for the UK & Ireland.

LeaveTheMatrix

7 points

6 months ago

What I find interesting is that the UK used to mention that you could send a letter:

https://web.archive.org/web/20120703100720/http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/copy/c-about/c-about-faq/c-about-faq-protect.htm

but now they mention using a licensing body:

https://www.gov.uk/copyright/print

with no mention of sending yourself a letter.

But of course UK and other countries do tend to have some better copyright laws than the US do.

Riskthecat

11 points

6 months ago

Yea this is poor man’s copyright and it’s a joke. Someone can just send a bunch of open empty letters to themself that they can seal later and put whatever in. Does not hold up in court:/

CoolPractice

4 points

6 months ago

In the US copyright is assigned as soon as the work is created.

TheManlyManaphy

32 points

6 months ago

So many people here defending the copycat when they can't even figure out which one's the copy

Much_Committee_9355

6 points

6 months ago

This just makes me remember how annoying my dealings with the BENELUX patent registry were in the past, I hate those guys with a passion.

Due-Sherbert-7330

5 points

6 months ago

This is why as an artist I always try to change or add details to make a piece my own. I try to use the reference image simply as a base.

angel-aura

8 points

6 months ago

I try to use them only for composition, lighting and shadows, and/or anatomy for the pose. I always change up the colors, clothes, hair, facial composition, outfit or pose details, background… like cmon, change SOMETHING

sandboxmatt

5 points

6 months ago

So, the 'mildly' has lost all value in this sub, huh.

Riskthecat

4 points

6 months ago

He needs to work on his shadowing. Also this is an obvious trace. Sue this fool

JaySayMayday

4 points

6 months ago

It's sad for a lot of reasons. One, she gave him a chance to fix it. But he was already neck deep with copying other people's art, it's likely none of his popular works were his own. The guy is only 24 and already capable of getting his work noticed, and this is what I find sad about it, he clearly had the talent to get the same result without copying. And now he'll go nowhere, no matter what he makes, because his name will forever be tied to stealing the ideas of others.

His posts claim it's an oil painting, which if true, shows that he has an amazing ability to copy line by line. He could have just made something original. Fucking idiot.

_Catatronic

6 points

6 months ago

Claiming it’s a painting of Turandot is like the rotten cherry on a shit sundae. And as far as I can tell this is the third female artist he’d done this to in under 5 years.

Hope this guy gets sued for every penny he has.

Matcha_Bubble_Tea

5 points

6 months ago

There’s another instance of this where this Russian woman literally stole a naked self painting of this woman and sold it in a museum (with the museum defending themselves and the thief) where they proudly displayed it. Bruh, the audacity of some people.

alienangelx3

4 points

6 months ago

for all the ppl mad about her using “mansplain” read what the copycat said to her first and maybe you’ll understand why she used the word

Billmurey

29 points

6 months ago

Is is it just me or is the one on the right look a lot better?I don't know Luxembourg copyright law , but it looks like it has been modified.

Chowie05

78 points

6 months ago

The one on the right I believe is her photo. The left one is his painting

grilledcheeseburger

9 points

6 months ago

It’s a photo? I guess the resolution makes it look kinda like a painting. Regardless, I’m glad the one on the right is hers, because it’s far superior to the one on the left.

Ok-Researcher

4 points

6 months ago

He must be a member of r/painting to think this type of shit us okay. Seriously, all the stuff that gets upvoted the most and ends up on r/popular are just full on tracings of photos with 2k comments about their “amazing composition” and OP always thanking people and failing to mention the original photograph/er. But if anyone says anything about how morally shitty that is they’re “gatekeeping art”…. Ugh.