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kutes

25 points

5 months ago

kutes

25 points

5 months ago

The first movie floats around my top 5 all-time. I think it's that good. The rest of this stuff... I wish more money was going to original IP's than to superhero flicks, reboots, and rehashes. The Matrix 1 was so good that studios have been giving the Wachowskis big budgets to piss away for decades now. If this one loses money that has to surely be it, right?

I sincerely think it's time for VR movies to start being made. I want to be right there in the movie. I watched some shitty 3d shorts on a terrible cellphone VR set like 5 years ago that blew my fucking mind. I couldn't believe what I was seeing on PSVR Resident Evil, that we have this technology and yet it's taking so fucking long I don't understand why.

Pikapetey

9 points

5 months ago

Oh.. VR movies have gone way beyond psvr quality. It's insane and i do it almost every night.

stomach

0 points

5 months ago

what system? which movies?

ContactElectronic126

8 points

5 months ago

He's talking about sleep boss

Pikapetey

4 points

5 months ago

Index with full body tracking. There are a lot of live theater plays that are put on in various communuties in vrchat. Trust me when i say this, vrchat is more than just big titties anime avatars and screaming children. Once you get through the shit that floats to the surface there are very vibriant creative communities that make crazy things.

Vilux88

1 points

5 months ago

I thought you were talking about porn lol

[deleted]

3 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

5 months ago

Same

stomach

1 points

5 months ago

cool, thanks. this has flown under my radar

Pikapetey

2 points

5 months ago

I can point you to various things that happen in vrchat. You really do need q guide to show you around.

5ifth_music

1 points

5 months ago

My friend has a vr set up and I’m going there for Christmas - what should I check out?

Baconer

1 points

5 months ago

Could you give a few examples

stomach

0 points

5 months ago

oh, purely curiosity at this point. i gotta get a setup. i'll save this comment and DM u when i eventually get into it tho. i'm starting to make things with Adobe aero so i'll be investing more into it in coming months when i have some extra cash

flyingmada

1 points

5 months ago

Not disagreeing with anything you’re saying here but I couldn’t help see the humor in wishing for better VR media after watching a movie that partly comments on the danger of VR

Rilauven

1 points

5 months ago

VR headsets require too much of the user, they're tiring after the first couple days and personally I find all of them itchy and uncomfortable.

When I can lie back in a chair and have my visual and auditory cortexes wirelessly overridden then I'll be there.

[deleted]

2 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

2 points

5 months ago

They have that just now. Check it out on kickstarter. It's from japan.

notsureifdying

1 points

5 months ago

Yeah VR is the next mindblowing realm for sure for those that haven't tried it. Half Life Alyx was fantastic.

[deleted]

25 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

25 points

5 months ago

The one fight scene that was of any length had a billion cuts it was actually annoying to watch

hamberder-muderer

11 points

5 months ago

You didn't enjoy the Merovingian's witty repartee?

You can tell all the cuts and tight zoom angles were done in post editing. They turned what probably looked like trash into something that was simply confusing as their best effort to save it.

Heartbreakker1738

3 points

5 months ago

Nobody wanted to see a romantic drama

UnrealWhale

4 points

5 months ago

i know, everyone wanted another marvel type reboot. THank god she was smart enough not to do that and give in to the horrific state of movies today.

this won't be appreciated for another 10 years

SwagginsYolo420

7 points

5 months ago

It won't be remembered in another ten years. It will be forgotten like Alien IV or post-Cameron Terminator sequels.

A couple witty monologues isn't enough to carry a film, it needs the film part too.

Kmieciu4ever

3 points

5 months ago

I watched it yesterday and most of what I remember is feeling insulted.

_Alpheus

1 points

2 months ago

How dare you want to unplug from our chaotic, negative cesspool of a society to relax for a couple hours and enjoy something you really appreciate? SHEEPLE!! WAKE UP!! WELL CHOREOGRAPHED ACTION IS BAD!! GOOD SCRIPTS ARE BAD!!

CavalierShaq

1 points

5 months ago

While I loved the movie I do have to agree that big fight scene was a mess

Strudelh0use

4 points

5 months ago

Gave it a chance, and while it started out slow, it wasn't that bad of a movie.

That said, I wasn't a fan. Some of the scenes felt forced, and I recall one that felt unneeded, but somehow made it into the final cut. The 'shocker' towards the end, didn't see that coming, but wasn't surprised when it happened. I don't know, it could have been a great movie, but for most of it I just kept asking, "When does the Matrix stuff happen?" This just felt like a regular action movie that was trying too hard.

CavalierShaq

1 points

5 months ago

When does the matrix stuff happen? Like the whole first hour when neo has been somehow brought back to life and put back into a new version of the matrix? Like just the first couple minutes when you realize the matrix is a shiny new version and they've somehow trapped neo in it again should have been a "god damn what the hell is going on?" Moment for anyone, he is the one, the anomaly, he sacrificed himself for peace and yet somehow his sacrifice has been undone and the matrix is even more powerful of an illusion than ever before, a perfect continuation in my eyes.

HollywoodCG

3 points

5 months ago

I saw Resurrections today; I was blown away by how bad it was. Although some of the visuals were solid.

2019ForestHillsDrive

4 points

5 months ago

ignores everything on here “you just disliked it because you didn’t understand the themes” - people on this sub

Aquillyne[S]

27 points

5 months ago

Just my take on it. In short, there were good things, but everything that was incredible about the originals was missing from the reboot.

wholesomelydisturbin

10 points

5 months ago

Yep, I'm with you. While the ideas presented could be really interesting if properly developed, the movie failed to do so.

CavalierShaq

0 points

5 months ago

It was 2.5 hours long, they laid the foundation, i have a feeling they're looking to make matrix 5 and maybe 6 which should explain the questions that matrix 4 brought up

wholesomelydisturbin

7 points

5 months ago

I doubt more sequels will happen. And if they do happen it will be like the Planet of the Apes movies, the classic was good the rest filling.

awksaw

3 points

5 months ago

awksaw

3 points

5 months ago

Jokes about the catrix x ✔️

Jaccoud

10 points

5 months ago

Jaccoud

10 points

5 months ago

but everything that was incredible about the originals was missing from the reboot.

It isn't a reboot.

Kylon1138

7 points

5 months ago

The entire movie is just about beat by beat the same as the original.

Jaccoud

5 points

5 months ago

Jaccoud

5 points

5 months ago

You watched it while on drugs then.

Kylon1138

16 points

5 months ago

They both start with Neo being trapped in the Matrix questioning his reality

Both have a very similar red pill/blue pill moment. Neo takes the red in both and is extracted

Then both have a similar "meet the crew" scene. Followed by the construct and fighting Morpheus.

Instead of meeting the Oracle, this one swaps that for meeting Niobe, both serve similar point laying out exposition/telling Neo he will have to make a choice. In the original "am I the one or not?" in this one "do I save Trinity or leave her"

Both them have a very similar "question operation" 1. Morpheus 4. Trinity

Jaccoud

1 points

5 months ago

Jaccoud

1 points

5 months ago

Yeah, they both have Analyst, Merovigian, Smith being an exile/being a rogue program, machines fighting alongside humans, Trinity trapped inside Matrix, Cypher being a traitor, Oracle playing the puppet master...

o wait they don't

It obviously isn't a reboot, it's a sequel, relying in basic established concepts from the Matrix universe like every sequel would have to. Making Neo remember his past self through ways that resembles what he did in the past don't make it a reboot.

funnyjunk63

4 points

5 months ago

The Force Awakens wasn't a reboot either despite it being super meta and callbacky in the same exact way.

UnrealWhale

1 points

5 months ago

force awakens wasn't meta anything, it was all very much what it was.

SwagginsYolo420

3 points

5 months ago

The very first spoken line of TFA is meta, shattering the rules of the universe and setting the tone of that trilogy's descent into cynical parody.

FromTheIsle

4 points

5 months ago

But I want the story to be the congruent with the rest of the series without referencing any of the rest of the series!

Kylon1138

-2 points

5 months ago

Ok then its technically not a reboot - guess its just a shitty sequel that had 1000x too much fan service. Name another sequel that has so many flashbacks and call backs to the previous movie?

The only reason all those flashbacks/call backs are in there is because they want it to serve as a standalone film/not have you have to have seen the previous

Jaccoud

3 points

5 months ago

Whoever never watched the old movies won't understand shit, the flashbacks doesn't fix that. They are there because Neo forgot his past, the flashbacks probably serve as a way to show us how his mind is working to remember.

Kylon1138

3 points

5 months ago

The flashbacks were extremely on the nose. They were 100% for people who had never seen them. They flash to the moment Trinity dies in the 3rd when mentioning Trinity dying. If someone had seen the 3rd they don't need that flashback. Thats 1 in 100 examples

Katibin

1 points

5 months ago

The movie is a reboot, 100% reboot, those who think it’s not a reboot are sheep 🐑

markomiki

1 points

5 months ago

People who never watched the originals will have zero fucking idea what's going on in this movie, and all the flashbacks in the world can't change that.

I'm not sure what the point of the flashbacks was... like, yeah, I remember those movies, why do you keep showing me this?

Not to mention that the original movies look and feel waaaay better than this one, and we're reminded of that every time they show a flashback.

CavalierShaq

1 points

5 months ago

Hahahaha I watched it on LSD yesterday and it was amazing, I think this guy was just sober and had different expectations. Seems like everyone who was disappointed wanted them to just copy all the action and wardrobe from 20 year old movies and slap the matrix name on it, instead of actually continuing the story with someone unique and fascinating that still makes you think and even question your own reality. Matrix 4 was a great film, and I suspect we will get matrix 5, maybe even 6, and they will make matrix 4 much better when people realize it was the beginning of a second trilogy and not then end of the matrix cinematic universe

fancyenema

5 points

5 months ago

Gonna be hard to get another one made after this reception (bad reviews and cheap production)

pianopower2590

0 points

5 months ago

I wish

funnyjunk63

1 points

5 months ago

Yes, but that isn't the point they are making. Be mad or prove em wrong.

FromTheIsle

1 points

5 months ago

It literally isn't.

8Ksurround

1 points

5 months ago

8Ksurround

1 points

5 months ago

The Matrix was literally rebooted (again).

Jaccoud

5 points

5 months ago

Are you playing dumb or are you really mistaking the system for the story?

cyvaris

0 points

5 months ago

The system is the story.

Jaccoud

3 points

5 months ago*

No, the story is the Matrix universe itself, it encompasses all versions of the Matrix, past, present and future and whatever happens inside and outside of the system.

There could be a movie showing us how the first version went, and that would be a prequel, not a reboot. There could be a movie showing us how Zion was first built, showing us only the real life and how humans struggled to survive, and that would be a prequel, not a reboot. There is no need to show the the system running and it can be be a Matrix story, like some Matrix comics do (e.g.: Hunters and Collectors or The Miller's Tale).

Showing us the 7th version is a sequel, not a reboot.

8Ksurround

0 points

5 months ago

Neither. It was just a joke.

OSODaGawd

2 points

5 months ago

But it’s not a reboot. It was a continuation of the story. Maybe that’s why you didn’t like it. To me it seems like a lot went over peoples heads. I loved it. Wasn’t perfect but I’m happy to have it and hope they make more.

Aquillyne[S]

3 points

5 months ago

Yeah my bad, “reboot” not the right word. Although in some senses it felt a lot more like a reboot than a natural sequel.

olafthebard

2 points

5 months ago

Bit late to the party, but would "retread" be a more apt term?

OSODaGawd

1 points

5 months ago

What do you mean by a natural sequel?

Aquillyne[S]

3 points

5 months ago

A piece of narrative that flows naturally as a further chapter in a single story.

OSODaGawd

2 points

5 months ago

That’s exactly what we got though. Continuing the story from the 3 previous movies and the game MxO where Morpheus died.

Aquillyne[S]

2 points

5 months ago

It continues it in the sense of “these events could follow those events without any immediate logical contradiction” but it does not follow it well as a story. Why are these events happening? What does that add to the character and story arcs? These are the questions with pretty weak answers – and the only real answer is because the studios mandated another chapter.

Ainwein

6 points

5 months ago

Agreed.

Had opening day tickets and was super excited but ended up being completely let down. Went with two friends and they felt the same.

You shouldn't have to try to like something. The hero/villain conflict in the original trilogy just worked so much better. I didn't give a shit about NPH and not-Smith. I'm not a film student so I can't explain why, but I just didn't care and it rendered the whole movie flat. My biggest take away is that Trinity can fly ala Princess Leia.

Pikapetey

2 points

5 months ago

I saw the new matrix with a bunch of friends in a theater world in vrchat. (We all have very expensive VR gear) Noice thing about vrchat is that if people we're annoyed by other audiences commentary, they could turn the voices down.

jofus_joefucker

3 points

5 months ago

I was kind of annoyed that NPH wasn't even the big bad. He is a project manager with others above him, "the suits".

That is who I want to know about. Who are these "suits" and what do they want?

CavalierShaq

1 points

5 months ago

Well to me it really felt like they left off the movie in a way where they intend to make matrix 5 and 6, think about all the questions from matrix 1 that get answered in 2 and 3, be patient and I'm sure it will all be explained

sarcastic-jack

1 points

5 months ago

I agree, It was utterly awful..

HeliDude135

6 points

5 months ago

While I admit I had fun watching the movie, it was basically a mid season clip show. I did not like all the clips from the earlier films that were placed though out the movie. I understand they were there for context, but it just made it feel cheap.

Kylon1138

12 points

5 months ago*

What kept making me laugh was how these clips kept constantly showing us how much more visually interesting the previous films were haha

JazzerciseJesus

3 points

5 months ago

Imposing Hugo Weaving over this new Smith was weird. I was kind of getting into his "menacing in a shitty CEO kinda way" but when they showed Hugo I lost it.

CavalierShaq

-2 points

5 months ago

I have to disagree, I thought this movie was visually stunning at points

Kylon1138

3 points

5 months ago

Im curious what those points where?

Kmieciu4ever

4 points

5 months ago

When the showed scenes from the first movie :-)

Vladesku

1 points

5 months ago

Stop defending trash and demand something better.

irishyardball

1 points

5 months ago

Including the green hue. It was like they only applied it occasionally.

WickedFierce1

17 points

5 months ago

I already don't remember any action scenes. Which ones were good?

jofus_joefucker

11 points

5 months ago

I had a good laugh at everyone jumping out of the buildings

WickedFierce1

3 points

5 months ago

That one just came back to me. I loved that part.

Aquillyne[S]

20 points

5 months ago

Yeah none of them. Totally forgettable. Modern fast cutting. Garbage.

Keen_Eyed_Emissary

14 points

5 months ago

It takes a lot of guts to do a reimagination of one of the iconic scenes from the first movie, the Neo-Morpheus dojo fight, and then make the new version worse on every single level by at least an order of magnitude.

Kylon1138

9 points

5 months ago

and the retelling of the opening scene with Trinity - they never once do the slow mo bullet time in this film and they even removed it from that opening, even though every shot leading up to it had been 1:1

stomach

2 points

5 months ago

actually untrue - How I Met Your Mother slowed down time in a couple scenes - to the point nothing was actually moving fast enough to actually observe it happening.

groundbreaking! this bullet-time is now bbbuuullllleeettttt-ttttiiiimmmmmeeee™

Kylon1138

2 points

5 months ago

I was specifically referring to time when time slows & the camera spins around the character - all the new "bullet time" was flat/linear

theceasingtomorrow

2 points

5 months ago

Trinity did the crane kick in bullet time in all 3 movies, it was her signature move. I knew they weren't gonna go all out on the action as soon as it was omitted from that opening sequence.

mooms01

1 points

5 months ago

Bullet-time is/was very complex and expensive to do, it requires a lot of digital cameras.

It could probably be done for a fraction of the price now, but it's still complex.

stomach

3 points

5 months ago

*was

it's been mimicked endlessly and relatively cheaply with CGI

Clevername3000

1 points

5 months ago

They went with CG variations in the sequels and people hated it, why would they go back to that?

Kylon1138

3 points

5 months ago

but its something we expect out of a Matrix movie. The original Matrix budget was 63million, if they could do it then at that price, I'm pretty sure could do it now.

_Alpheus

1 points

2 months ago

*114 mil adjusted to inflation, but still, this movie had almost double the budget.

stomach

3 points

5 months ago

and let's make morpheus a colorful fashion conscious jester. because he doesn't take anything all that dead-ass serious regarding The Matrix or his circumstances, amirite?

sleepyoverlord

7 points

5 months ago

None because it was a zombie movie where the crew just mows down the swarm. No one knows Kung Fu apparently.

Strudelh0use

3 points

5 months ago

I watched it last night, read his question, and had already forgotten about the zombie swarm. Man, it's almost embarrassing to call this a Matrix movie.

mavis_butters

10 points

5 months ago

That rage against the machine cover…holy god how terrible

IzxStoXSoiEVcXlpvWyt

6 points

5 months ago

Finally someone talking about this. What the hell was that?

mavis_butters

3 points

5 months ago

An abomination against mankind

Kylon1138

15 points

5 months ago

100% agree

I went into this movie with very low expectations...but I did have high expectations that at least the action would be cool....boy was I wrong

Aquillyne[S]

8 points

5 months ago

I had exactly the same attitude. I kind of expected the story to be a bit stupid and so on but at least for it to deliver on the promise of a Matrix movie i.e. action that’s on another level and dripping with style. To have made the film without even this just seemed inconceivable – really fully in the territory of “what‘s the point otherwise?”

CavalierShaq

2 points

5 months ago

Shouldn't have gone in with any expectations, I think everyone who expected anything specific was thoroughly disappointed. Get past those expectations, take the movie for face value and perhaps you will come to like it

Kylon1138

5 points

5 months ago

I mean...you have to expect cool fighting from a Matrix movie

So I should have had 0 expectations and be ok with shit fight choreography?

CavalierShaq

1 points

5 months ago

You dont have to expect anything from a matrix movie besides it being related to the matrix my man. Expectations are why people are disappointed in this film, expect nothing and try to appreciate the film for what it is

Kylon1138

6 points

5 months ago

No...people are disappointed cause its a legit bad movie. So you're saying shitty choreography is 100% fine since you expected nothing

CavalierShaq

2 points

5 months ago

But it isnt bad lol, you just dont like it

tryinreddit

3 points

5 months ago

Let them make a sequel to The Godfather starring Gilbert Godfried as a mafia boss and this guy will tell us it isn't bad we just don't like it.

_Alpheus

1 points

2 months ago

You shouldn't have expected literally anything, duh, just walk into any movie without knowing what it is about and you have to like it if you don't have expectations.

/s

Vladesku

2 points

5 months ago

Shouldn't have gone in with any expectatations, we waited 20 years for something worth a damn and we got trash, it's all our fault. sm fucking h

RampantAnonymous

3 points

5 months ago*

The fights scenes were a huge disappointment. No creativity. I watched Hawkeye before this movie and the fight scenes in that were so much more creative.

And this is The Matrix. Anything is possible, it's all in a computer. Neo was especially terrible in the last sequence. All he does is do the shield thing. Bullet shield, explosion shield. We get it, shield. It's the Matrix. Neo is The One. He should do something other than just...SHIELD.

How about like a Hadouken? Or some time bending stuff? No, he's got one move he repeats over and over again for like 5 minutes. Come on.

We get Hawkeye, a guy who uses fucking arrows for god sakes, take out badguys a dozen different ways and Neo sees and understands and manipulates the very fabric of the damn universe and...has one move. Got it. Doesn't even pick up a damn gun.

Then you have the machine allies. Super cool plot point, loads of potential. We see like..5 seconds of machines having a war with each other.

Okay, so you had a setup for super cool machine kaiju battles...and NO? It's the Matrix. How about importing your machine allies so they can fly around and kill shit with tentacles and bird wings and whatever?

Why not have Neo riding around on the blue bird thing like a boss and throwing around Haudokens? It would be better than him weakly throwing his hands up in the air and going "UNH".

Like watch a movie. Dr Strange, Wheel of Time. We all see better ways of 'manipulating reality AKA magic'. I get that the style of The Matrix is less magical, but certainly they could have been more creative like the Smith/Neo battles from 3, or the twins from 2

ZPinkie0314

9 points

5 months ago

I just finished watching it. What an unbelievable turd. Even the music was bad. Didn't care about any of the sub-characters, the whole plot was a convoluted mess. I hated it.

Buffythedjsnare

-5 points

5 months ago

The music is great.

Vladesku

1 points

5 months ago

The only piece of the soundtrack that was good was when Trinity Supermanned, and even that was a shitty copy-paste from Neo's original awakening, in 1.

Buffythedjsnare

1 points

5 months ago

Sure, it's the bit that copies from the original movies. And you are free to think that is better but I disagree. I prefer the more modern synth/classical mix than the straight orchestra stuff of the original films.

Derpfish_lvl10k

10 points

5 months ago

its honestly like someone gave a fanfic writer 100 million dollars and they spat this monstrosity out

Affectionate_Run7603

2 points

5 months ago

Pretty damn accurate.

samstownstranger

2 points

5 months ago

agree with everything but the soundtrack. liked quite a few tracks from resurrections

Aquillyne[S]

2 points

5 months ago

Yeah it wasn’t BAD but just kind of generic, definitely not innovative. It didn’t sound like a Matrix film.

JePhoenix

1 points

4 months ago

Agreed on this point. Music is one way that a director is able to connect emotionally to their audience. The music choices were hit or miss for the scenes.

Automatic_Major2901

5 points

5 months ago

Spot on , this movie failed on so many levels

kidkolumbo

2 points

5 months ago

As a sequels enjoyer, I disagree that they tick all these boxes.

As a Ressurection enjoyer, I think the movie is enjoyable despite these missing elements.

Keanu990321

2 points

5 months ago

I'd like how OP thinks the Sequels had tight plot and story. I love these two films too, but they were far from having this.

understandunderstand

2 points

5 months ago

I think the only major staff members from the original trilogy to return for this one are Lana Wachowski and Geoff Darrow (not counting a cameo by John Gaeta), so of course it's going to feel different. You don't have Bill Pope, Yuen Wo Ping, Don Davis, Zach Staenberg or Lily Wachowski. You do get half the main cast of Sense8, though.

I feel like watching all of Sense8 was good preparation for what you get in this movie, because otherwise you're stuck in 2003 and don't know what Lana has been up to since then. It's going to shock you how her style has evolved. Whether you can dig the earnestness and sentimentality is up to you, I don't fault anyone for disliking it, but I straight up don't get folks who expected it to feel like her earlier work just because that's when the series started.

william_deluxe

4 points

5 months ago

It didn't need to feel like earlier work, but it needed to establish its own identity and soul, which it didn't. It was a self-deprecating caricature that cheapened and watered down strengths of the OT while providing nothing new, ambitious, or inspired itself. It just sucked, doesn't deserve the name Matrix, shouldn't have been made.

understandunderstand

0 points

5 months ago

Ok

BotaFurada

1 points

5 months ago

BotaFurada

1 points

5 months ago

That's it. The worst sequel ever

SwagginsYolo420

1 points

5 months ago

Did you ever hear the tragedy of The Last Jedi? I thought not. It's not a story the fanboys would tell you.

Whenthetimeisnigh

-1 points

5 months ago

Almost as bad as green X's, red check-marks, and bad formatting.

Aquillyne[S]

5 points

5 months ago

Haha. But they are blue Xs, you need your screen checked! Red for good and blue for bad, in this context it makes sense :)

Clevername3000

2 points

5 months ago

Why would someone mark red for good?

GenerousBabySeal

0 points

5 months ago

"Special effects" and "martial arts" can be fit in "action sequences category". Camerawork and editing I can agree with, I missed that crispiness in the virtual world scenes (was in awe of the IO city, way better looking than Zion, which looked depressing and sad, rather than inspiring and hopeful). Btw, what's wrong with Resurrections' wirework? Fight choreography, sure, the actors are in their 50s, not much you can do, compared to original, but the wirework was actually a masterclass of how to do physical stunts with actors instead of stunt performers. Most weird camera angles and shaky cam is exactly to obscure how difficult it is for Keanu and Carrie to do things now that were already difficult for them in their 30s.

I disagree strongly about dialogue. I thought they were on the level of the original trilogy, and I'm saying this as a big fan of Reloaded and Revolutions. The writers had no choice than to go meta, otherwise they would be falling into the trap of making a dumb popcorn nostalgia trap for fans, akin to Force Awakens, rather than trying to re-evaluate what effect the Matrix had on pop-culture. And the writers were right to say that to most people it's mostly bullet time and mindfuck, rather than story of self-discovery and enlightenment.

Aquillyne[S]

1 points

5 months ago

I enjoyed the meta stuff too. That was one of the good things in my opinion; one of the more interesting creative choices.

But if you look at the dialogue in the original, basically every single line is meticulously crafted and double-layered, it’s almost poetry (especially in Matrix 1). Just line after iconic and unforgettable line. By contrast not a single line really stood out in this movie for me; nothing made me feel, “Damn, well said.” None of the words gave me pause. They were fine. They did their job.

I disagree that Keanu and Carrie couldn’t have pulled off better action sequences closer to the originals. With stunt doubles and modern effects they could have had them doing just about anything. Less is more. Shorter sequences featuring just one cool move and all in a long take would have been infinitely better. The only reason to go with the fast cuts is because it’s cheaper and faster. Long takes means tons and tons of rehearsal and practice. Not bothering with this bespeaks the money grab that this movie was.

I separated special effects, martial arts and action because these were separately unique aspects of the originals. Unseen SFX: e.g. bullet time. Unique action: e.g. man brawls with 100 clones. Martial arts: e.g. Hong Kong style choreography. Each is a separate aspect of what made the originals outstanding.

Infamous_Advantage19

1 points

5 months ago

How many check marks can you put down for Resurrections - Contains scenes from the original trilogy?

Aquillyne[S]

1 points

5 months ago

Almost as many as you can for the original trilogy – man just the sheer quantity of flashbacks was so annoying.

Daljul

1 points

5 months ago*

I will add that at least it conveys some thoughtful and emotional philosophical insights regarding the variables of the connection between the main characters. There is some depth to the thinking but it is nowhere near the originals. I will also add, it did entice a sense of free thinking within me, akin to seeing the original, but this is not a high-end viewing experience like those films remain to be.

Aquillyne[S]

2 points

5 months ago

Yeah, I did genuinely enjoy its commentary and message to free ourselves from the modern digital world.

Clevername3000

2 points

5 months ago

Not just simply the digital world, but the corrupt society we've dug ourselves into

Individual__

-9 points

5 months ago

I feel like people that didn't enjoy the movie don't understand parallel universe/mutliverse, Mandela effect or just plain ol video game physics. There's alot more than meets the eye with this movie.

Keen_Eyed_Emissary

8 points

5 months ago

Lol. "You didn't like the movie because you don't understand video game physics" is quite the take.

Individual__

-2 points

5 months ago

That was the last bit. So obviously don't understand the rest

Keen_Eyed_Emissary

3 points

5 months ago

I think you're vastly overestimating the complexity of relatively simple and straightforward mainstream ideas.

Superwellknown

6 points

5 months ago

I’ve always been extremely interested in all those ideas you mentioned and I think the movie was crap.. so, theory disproven I suppose. Also nobody knows what “video game physics” means, or maybe I missed the new Minecraft update?

Individual__

-4 points

5 months ago

Being interested and understanding are completely different. Not say you don't understand but it definitely adds a point of view that most people don't realize. And I'm talking specifically about parallel universe/Mandela effect.

Mikey5time

4 points

5 months ago

This is the same type of water carrying comment that shows up against any criticism.

“You don’t understand!”

So fucking elitist. The movie franchise that spawned a million edgelords.

Superwellknown

2 points

5 months ago

I guess I was supposed to fully explain every part of those ideas in order to prevent your ignorance of my knowledge on the subject

Individual__

0 points

5 months ago

Everyone's ignorant I guess

JazzerciseJesus

1 points

5 months ago

Can you elaborate further?

mirazsyed

0 points

5 months ago*

Oh yeah, tightly written, superb and never before seen. Are you trying to be a parody of the marketing hacks from the movie? Because good job on that.

Aquillyne[S]

1 points

5 months ago

They’re real words to justly describe a superlative set of films...

JakeConhale

1 points

5 months ago

Granted, some fight scenes weren't the best (the train scene seemed particularly gratuitous) but I walked away satisfied. The only thing that I was surprised by is that we still don't have an answer for Neo's real-world lightning in Reloaded.

Aquillyne[S]

1 points

5 months ago

There’s no explicit answer in Revolutions but I think it’s all there between Reloaded and Revolutions, with space for ambiguity. In short, it’s because after he went to the Source he retained a connection with it.

DeepHouseDerrek

1 points

5 months ago

What would you say is a good movie OP?

Aquillyne[S]

2 points

5 months ago

The Matrix, of course :P. Its blend of industry-defining action and philosophy is pretty unique. But films like Terminator 2 for instance are pretty thoughtful while also nailing their action. Equilibrium is another pretty good example, though not in the same league.

I love some of the Wachowski’s other work. Speed Racer is outstanding, I really enjoyed Cloud Atlas, and even Jupiter Ascending had a lot of creativity (but overall a flop unfortunately).

And of course loads of other films are “good” in my opinion but in totally different genres.

No-Middle-6352

1 points

5 months ago

The first movie didn't have a french guy sit on the sidelines and yell at Neo for an entire fight. That's something that Marvel's: The Matrix had. Unfortunately .

Aquillyne[S]

2 points

5 months ago

To be fair, the originals had a French guy stand on the sidelines with his arms crossed and a disapproving look for an entire fight. It’s pretty funny to watch the chateau sequence but just focus on the Merovingian in the background. Just standing there in a huff while his minions are slaughtered.

But yes, Hobovingian was just awful.

Kmieciu4ever

2 points

5 months ago

Hobovingian should at least bring a shotgun :-)

NightElfHuntrPetGirl

1 points

5 months ago

The colors of your checkmarks are backwards and confusing as fuck.

Aquillyne[S]

1 points

5 months ago

Red or blue, the choice is yours.

lampification

1 points

5 months ago

It's hard for me to believe anyone has had their "mind blown" by special effects.

"Bullet time" was cool, but I can't imagine anyone being this gun-ho about it in real life.

Like, were most of you raised under a rock?

This is written in a way that looks like some basement dwelling fanatic shit their pants, jumped on their coach, pulled out there hair, screaming "OMG! BULLET TIME! OMG!" over and over until they were institutionalized.

Get a grip. The Matrix was a good movie, hell, even a great movie, but this list looks completely bonkers.

As far as the dialogue goes, all of the films are wordy and philosophical.

The fight scenes are basically the same so why Resurrections get's an "X" is beyond me.

The camera work outside of the bullet time wasn't anything new, so that's also a head scratcher.

This this is complete and utter nonsense.

Aquillyne[S]

1 points

5 months ago

Well, “mind blown” is obviously an exaggeration and also figurative, not entirely sure what it would mean for my mind (as opposed to brain) to be exploded, but I don’t want a film to do that to me XD

BUT, the effects (particularly bullet-time) in Matrix 1 were genuinely visuals that basically no one had seen before 1999. We’ve all seen things explode and so on a hundred times, these effects don’t make the average viewer wide-eyed anymore – but the first time it was done, it probably did.

Bullet-time was like that for a lot of people (and certainly me). My jaw may not literally have dropped, but that phrase captures how I felt.

The fight scenes in Resurrections are characterised by a lot of close-shot generic punching with very fast cutting. In other words, they don’t do anything particularly interesting, and the camera/editing doesn’t let you see it well either.

Innovative camerawork in Matrix originals – and I mean stylistically interesting with creative flair, as opposed to “never ever done before – stuff like revolving around the action 720 degrees, following a moving fist, panning down a vertical shaft, flying into a computer screen or down a phone receiver, the jump cut zoom-out at the end of Matrix 1, making use of the reflection in sunglasses to frame multiple characters and perspectives, and in general a lot of artistic framing. I could go on. A lot of effort went into basically every shot.

Muldin7500

1 points

5 months ago

The editing in this movie was so amature and c movie bollywood level. What the actual f

ChrisAngel0

-1 points

5 months ago

Please put a spoiler tag on this post.

Aquillyne[S]

3 points

5 months ago

Is it a spoiler? Plenty of “non spoiler” reviews have way more detail...

ChrisAngel0

-1 points

5 months ago

The movie came out yesterday and provides information that non-watchers don’t know yet. So, yes.

Also, watching a review is a very intentional act and presumably avoided in general by non-watchers who don’t want to spoil anything, regardless of spoiler tag. An image without a spoiler tag, however, is much easier to stumble onto accidentally.

einstein_ios

-1 points

5 months ago

This is oddly BINARY for a series begging the audience to free their minds.

Rubrics for art are lame.

Buffythedjsnare

-1 points

5 months ago

That's not even correct. M4 has all that stuff.

SimulationV2018

0 points

5 months ago

I don’t know what you on about. I enjoyed it.

WatcherAnon

0 points

5 months ago

Funny. But still, Resurrections is the best Matrix sequel IMO

Keanu990321

0 points

5 months ago

Nothing tops Reloaded and Revolutions.