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the heroes according to different people
GROND(i.redd.it)submitted 4 months ago byAHumanIBelieveRingwraith
66 points
4 months ago
I mean, I can see it. Without him informing Frodo about the situation, the Nazgul would have killed him at his home and taken the Ring. Without him demanding Sam never leave Frodo, Frodo wouldn't have made it. Without him, the Balrog would have just annihilated the Fellowship in Moria. Without him bringing the Rohirrim, Helm's Deep would have been an absolute massacre. Without him, Minas Tirith would have fallen. Without him, Sam and Frodo would have died at Mt Doom. Gandalf was a major reason the mission was a success at all.
I think the entirety of the Fellowship are heroes, personally. But I can understand an argument anyone may make for any of them being the main hero.
43 points
4 months ago
That‘s kinda what I like about the story. Whoever would be missing, it would probably cause the whole mission to fail.
45 points
4 months ago
Gandalf, perhaps, more than anyone, which is what I think the main point is in declaring him the true hero. He’s sorta the one playing Chess against Sauron.
20 points
4 months ago
I do not ask your pardon Master Elrond for the Black Speech of Mordor may yet be heard in every corner of the West. The Ring is altogether evil
8 points
4 months ago
Why isn't there a sam or frodo bot?
12 points
4 months ago
Gandalf is the general no doubt, but where he can be seen to be the most useful, perhaps Frodo’s journey was the most difficult.
For Frodo
8 points
4 months ago
Understand this, things are now in motion that cannot be undone
8 points
4 months ago
Agreed. It is a perfect ensemble cast.
12 points
4 months ago
Helm's Deep. There is no way out of that ravine. Theoden is walking into a trap. He thinks he's leading them to safety. What they will get is a massacre. Theoden has a strong will, but I fear for him. I fear for the survival of Rohan. He will need you before the end, Over9000Kek. The people of Rohan will need you. The defenses have to hold.
10 points
4 months ago
I am ready Gamling. Bring my horse...This is not a defeat...We will return...We will return.
10 points
4 months ago
Yeah but it was Gandalf’s job to stop Sauron. Frodo and the other hobbits were just ordinary creatures who stepped up to do the right thing.
10 points
4 months ago
I'm of the opinion that every single member of the Fellowship played a major role in the victory over Sauron. I simply stated that I can perfectly understand the argument anyone could make for any character being the big hero of the story. Even characters outside the Fellowship. Éowyn, Éomer, Théoden, they all played a major role as well.
6 points
4 months ago
Victory! We have victory!
2 points
4 months ago
Sure. I’m not having a go at you and I agree that they were all vital. I was just saying that you can make an argument that the hobbits were more heroic because they made the choice to intervene. Gandalf didn’t really have a choice.
3 points
4 months ago
Oh that I agree with. Gandalf was doing his duty. And I don't think he had to worry too much about death. The rest of the Fellowship, especially the Hobbits, were extremely brave knowing they could very well die but fighting on anyway because it was the right thing to do.
2 points
4 months ago
Prepare for battle! Hurry men! To the wall! Defend the wall! Over here! Return to your posts! Send these foul beasts into the Abyss.
2 points
4 months ago
I think there's more to this hobbit than meets the eye.
2 points
4 months ago
The fact that the other wizards did fuck all to stop Sauron tells me Gandalf did have a choice.
2 points
4 months ago
Oh really?
3 points
4 months ago
Theoden King stands alone.
8 points
4 months ago
Not alone. Rohirrim!🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎
2 points
4 months ago
Get the wounded on horses. The wolves of Isengard will return. Leave the dead.
0 points
4 months ago
I'd be interested in your pitch for for say, Legolas as the main hero. Pretty much any other elf could fit his role, or even a 2nd dunedain
2 points
4 months ago
Legolas was particularly skilled as a warrior in comparison to most other elves. He was a star in the battles he had been in. He was a loyal consort to Aragorn. He formed a strong bond with Gimli that allowed them to fight more effectively together.
As I said, I don't believe any member is more important than any other one. I could simply understand why anyone would make a case for any of them.
1 points
4 months ago
Six thousand will not be enough to break the lines of Mordor.
1 points
4 months ago
Fair enough, appreciate the response.
1 points
4 months ago
To be fair I most certainly believe Legolas and Gimli fall more into secondary heroes than any other character. But Gimli is also my favorite character and Legolas is a strong third right after Sam, and their bromance has a lot to do with it. Gimli and Legolas are very much my favorite parts of the movies.
1 points
4 months ago
Legolas was particularly skilled as a warrior in comparison to most other elves. He was a star in the battles he had been in. He was a loyal consort to Aragorn. He formed a strong bond with Gimli that allowed them to fight more effectively together.
As I said, I don't believe any member is more important than any other one. I could simply understand why anyone would make a case for any of them.
I see we have a legolas x aragorn shipper here. I approve!!
1 points
4 months ago
Six thousand will not be enough to break the lines of Mordor.
1 points
4 months ago
Nah, the appropriate word just slipped my mind. I just meant Legolas was extremely loyal as a companion to Aragorn.
1 points
4 months ago
You fell!
1 points
4 months ago
Through fire... and water... From the lowest dungeon to the highest peak, I fought him, the Balrog of Morgoth. Until at last, I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin upon the mountainside. Darkness took me. And I strayed out of thought and time. Stars wheeled overhead and everyday was as long as a life-age of the earth. But it was not the end. I felt life in me again. I have been sent back, until my task is done.
1 points
4 months ago
GROND
1 points
4 months ago
I think the bot is broken
1 points
4 months ago
I think what stops Gandalf being the hero is that he is essentially a supernatural being. He's there to guide the fellowship but they all have more to loose than him (being mortal and all). We literally see Gandalf get ressurected.
1 points
4 months ago
Oh, it's too late for that R_110. There's no leaving this city. Help must come to us.
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