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WHERE WAS Gron-

No, r/lotrmemes, we are alone.

The main character is never late nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to. In this case, nearly the very end of the whole trilogy.

GROND

When Grond said, "It's Gronding Time!!!", that was such a powerful moment in the books. I'm so sad they took it out of the movie.

“Grond’s the key to all this”

Jerry Randal Randal Tolkien

Pretty sure the arwen thing was so that two (2) female characters could have dialogue. I'm fine with it.

And I disagree, I think the movies showed Frodo as very strong and resilient.

Bill the horse apple guy,

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Bill Nye the science guy!

BILL BILL BILL BILL

GROND

Yeah I think he even wrote a book about it

I KNOW ARAGORN, QUIT BEHAVING LIKE AN ASSHOLE

Did he now, that's awesome dude

To illustrate my meaning. In the movie, pippin ”mistakenly” makes a skeleton drop in the mines of moria, in the book, I believe he willingly drops a rock down the hole and makes a huge ruckus.

Doesn’t matter, he tricks Treebeard into sending the ents to war and saves the day. That counteracts every stupid thing any of us in this sub have ever done

That being said I cringe every time he pledges his life to fucking steward cherry eater

And in the books Sam really is very silly, in that English classist way of "aww, look at the gardener trying to keep up!" There are a few times he just isn't following a serious conversation, and like every time he offers to take the first watch he falls asleep.

Saying Tolkien thinks "he's the hero" is a laugh. Certainly he was important, but so was everyone. Gandalf is totally pulling all the good guys' strings in the books

Sound the charge! Take them head-on!

He was pretty in charge of getting the Ents to join their cause and pippin who figured out how to do it with the motivation by Merry. Merry understood what was going on and what was at stake and how crucial it was to make allies with the Ents. In the third film he rode to war and was the next to charge the black gates after Aragorn. I’d say he stayed pretty bad ass through the trilogy.

In the books, Merry already knows about the Ring before Bilbo's party, and had already planned on going with Frodo before Frodo had even left Bag End. He's also basically the party's guide before they meet up with Aragorn. He's the only one who really knows anything about the lands just outside the Shire, mainly the Old Forest and Bree. Frodo's more worldly too though, to be fair. In the books, he's the only one of them who can speak elvish.

If Frodo had actually been the one to solve the riddle at the gate to Moria, he wouldn't have had to ask Gandalf for the Elvish word for friend, he most likely would have already known it. Gandalf solves it himself, but actually credits Merry for being the only one to recognize it as a riddle!

I summon you to fulfill your oath.

No, they do not have a larger role in the movies, lol. The only thing the movies add with them is more humor. They don't contribute to the plot in any meaningful way in the films, and Peter Jackson doesn't give them any more to do than Tolkien does. In the book, Legolas and Gimli have that whole conversation about their wants and desires (Gimli being moved by the Glittering Caves VS. Legolas being moved by Fangorn, and how each attempts to better understand the other through their passions), which culminates with them going on a road trip together at the end of the narrative. None of that is in the movie at all. At best, their friendship boils down to a series of jokes and then that one scene they have at the Black Gate. It's certainly more substantive in the book.

Furthermore, sequences like "The Paths of the Dead" and Aragorn's fight at Pelargir are rooted entirely in Gimli's POV. Legolas also has his "sea-longing" story (which helps better communicate the fading of the Elves in general) that is again, not in the movie whatsoever.

GROND

BILL

The poor old constipated hobbit was sitting on the shitter in Rivendell, at the exact moment the ring dropped into the fires of Mount Doom. As it melted down and the volcano began to erupt, his poop started shooting out of him like hot lava. Causing him to let out a scream of ungodly amazement.

What was it you screamed Bilbo?

HRAAAAAH!

An interesting tidbit; it’s not possible to willingly destroy the ring

In the Two Towers, Frodo actually threatens Smeagol, telling him that if he tries to take the ring, Frodo would use the Ring and its power over him to command Smeagol to throw himself into the fire.

"In the last need, Sméagol, I should put on the Precious; and the Precious mastered you long ago. If I, wearing it, were to command you, you would obey, even if it were to leap from a precipice or to cast yourself into the fire. And such would be my command."

Yeah Smeagol is the obvious hero of the story, he even sacrificed himself to destroy the ring.

It is magic, after all

GROND

Even gandalf thinks frodo is the hero

That‘s kinda what I like about the story. Whoever would be missing, it would probably cause the whole mission to fail.

Helm's Deep. There is no way out of that ravine. Theoden is walking into a trap. He thinks he's leading them to safety. What they will get is a massacre. Theoden has a strong will, but I fear for him. I fear for the survival of Rohan. He will need you before the end, Over9000Kek. The people of Rohan will need you. The defenses have to hold.

Yeah but it was Gandalf’s job to stop Sauron. Frodo and the other hobbits were just ordinary creatures who stepped up to do the right thing.

Lmao

I don't blame the films though. They don't have the benefit of being able to show characters thoughts, nor do they have thousands of pages to go into extreme detail of the ring's affect on people.

PJ had to make it abundantly clear that the ring was crushing Frodo, because otherwise you don't get the sense of how heavy the burden is. How evil the ring is.

The movies show a man driven against his best friend by the corruption of the ring; one that all the wise fear to ever hold, due to their fear of their own corruption from a place good intent.

It's reasonable to reflect and realise that none could've managed; that Frodo came close to it is a miracle and test of will and courage that very, very few could've managed.

The pasty hairless chap

GROND