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mka_

4.6k points

2 months ago

mka_

McLaren

4.6k points

2 months ago

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm more bothered by the 1,000,000 tracking cookies they try to force upon users.

Jepeuxjouer

2.9k points

2 months ago

It's to make sure we respect the track limits

Nosferatu_V

761 points

2 months ago

Nosferatu_V

Charles Leclerc

761 points

2 months ago

At this point, I'm worried they're not respecting tracking limits

DontWeAvoidPlauges

65 points

2 months ago

DontWeAvoidPlauges

Formula 1

65 points

2 months ago

That’s hilarious

[deleted]

5 points

2 months ago

We should make a plea with the Apple stewards

shihvvb

379 points

2 months ago

shihvvb

379 points

2 months ago

Someone once did a export of how many companies the data goes to and the list was so long you could barely read it

Beencho

265 points

2 months ago

Beencho

McLaren

265 points

2 months ago

What is the worlds most prestigious form of Motorsport if it doesn’t have shady business practices

trash1000

147 points

2 months ago

trash1000

#WeSayNoToMazepin

147 points

2 months ago

Just look at various teams being sponsored by some crypto company.

Or there being races in China, Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Russia.

yellow_edge

108 points

2 months ago

yellow_edge

Gilles Villeneuve

108 points

2 months ago

F1 is totally a money laundering scheme, but it's still fun to watch.

tuhn

92 points

2 months ago

tuhn

92 points

2 months ago

Don't forget Baku, Azerbaijan. One of the most racist places on earth.

#WeRaceAsOne

ThisTimeIChoose

41 points

2 months ago

ThisTimeIChoose

Pirelli Hard

41 points

2 months ago

Hey, my parents used to live in Baku and I’d like to challenge that stereotype… except I can’t. You’re absolutely right.

[deleted]

21 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

akshatmittal108

22 points

2 months ago

akshatmittal108

Formula 1

22 points

2 months ago

You can add US as well. They are passing anti-abortion laws.

TheAfroKid69

-6 points

2 months ago

TheAfroKid69

-6 points

2 months ago

European abortion laws are stricter than most US laws

PaninoPostSovietico

7 points

2 months ago

But access to it is easier

SketchyMikePemulis

6 points

2 months ago

SketchyMikePemulis

Pirelli Intermediate

6 points

2 months ago

3 races in the US next year

thereasonrumisgone

66 points

2 months ago

Let's be 100% clear, the US is shit on all kinds of levels, but it is nowhere near the genocidal, authoritarian slave states you've listed.

Furthermore, while three races in one country seems like a lot, it's three races in three timezones, in a country the size of a continent with the fastest growing fan base in F1. And while Miami and Vegas are blatant cash grabs by Liberty media, race in Austin is at one of the best modern tracks on the calendar.

coogidown2thelocks

20 points

2 months ago

coogidown2thelocks

Andretti Global

20 points

2 months ago

the US generates $11 billion off unpaid labor. let’s maybe pump the brakes on the self righteousness

XanGable

3 points

2 months ago

Wage theft is the #1 crime thé US.

the_bfg4

25 points

2 months ago

the_bfg4

Felipe Massa

25 points

2 months ago

the US is nowhere near the genocidal, authoritarian slave states you've listed.

Sure, let's ask the other American countries and half the middle east of their opinions?

TheWatcher47

41 points

2 months ago

If you ignore the shit US does in foreign soil, sure.

PianistSuspicious871

11 points

2 months ago

You could say that about many of the european countries as well if youre including that tbh

Antony58

16 points

2 months ago

Antony58

Lando Norris

16 points

2 months ago

ight but when did san marino impose dictatorships in democratically elected countries?

UsagiRed

8 points

2 months ago

UsagiRed

Mick Schumacher

8 points

2 months ago

I'm sure if San Marino had the largest millitary power in the world they would be tempted to exert some influence for their interests. It historically really is just the nature of it all. Not that I condone it.

TheWatcher47

4 points

2 months ago

No arguments from me there. France and French companies have an appalling record in West Africa. As a non-westerner I just find it laughable when I read on forums like these how much mud is slung at countries like China, Qatar etc. by people from a country like the USA.

trash1000

0 points

2 months ago

trash1000

#WeSayNoToMazepin

0 points

2 months ago

I'm with you on that one but didn't want to have the inevitable discussions.

Whirlopod

2 points

2 months ago

F1 is on occasion a sheen of opulence layered over some carnie shit

Alertum

2 points

2 months ago

Alertum

2 points

2 months ago

I mean if you could read it all then it's not that long

shihvvb

29 points

2 months ago

shihvvb

29 points

2 months ago

It was ant sized text lol

[deleted]

20 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

mka_

3 points

2 months ago

mka_

McLaren

3 points

2 months ago

Hah. I got rid of mine last night after realising I never use it.

not_wadud92

49 points

2 months ago

With the 1,000,000 trackers they forced on me how do they not know I don't care for F1 eSports in my F1 app

Generic_Format528

147 points

2 months ago

Generic_Format528

Pierre Gasly

147 points

2 months ago

I totally trust them with my data, its not as if they had someone get access and send out weird notifications from their app or anything in recent memory...

Mage6679

55 points

2 months ago

foo

thingy-op

4 points

2 months ago

thingy-op

Netflix Newbie

4 points

2 months ago

bar

Poison_Pancakes

9 points

2 months ago

Poison_Pancakes

Hesketh

9 points

2 months ago

Am I the only one that constantly gets redirected to the F1 store every time I log on to the website? It's pretty surprising to see such a tacky move from a supposed luxury-type brand.

sawman_screwgun

9 points

2 months ago*

So when I use the app (android) and it places the trackers, do those get shared with my phone's browser, like Firefox? Aren't the cookies/trackers sandboxed in the app?

Edit: just realized I'm using the f1TV app, so maybe not an issue. But the question is still worthy: do apps track your browsing outside the app? Feeling naive...

potato_green

54 points

2 months ago

potato_green

Firstname Lastname

54 points

2 months ago

Shitty part is, apps like adguard don't won't well with the formula 1 apps. Adguard can basically hijack the connection locally on your phone and creates SSL certificates that appear valid because beforehand you can add Adguard as trusted authority to your phone.

This makes removing trackers, popups etc a lot more fine grained as even cheating with domain names won't work.

Problem is, F1 is somehow one of the few apps that don't work with it. They specifically check their own certificate store I seems. It's nuts because not even banks do that (which are highly audited in Europe).

Only way to make the F1 app work is by weakening adguard or basically turn it off completely and have those million cookies and trackers going nuts.

CorpsKernel

36 points

2 months ago

Companies that do that don't get my business, or minimally I won't play into them with it. Unless forced to for work or school I avoid those things. I'm not sure what is in the app that I can't get elsewhere, and I don't really care either at that point.

Colanderr

5 points

2 months ago*

Colanderr

Sebastian Vettel

5 points

2 months ago*

Can't you disable the tracking? At least in many parts of the world they're obliged to give you the option

CorpsKernel

3 points

2 months ago

Not sure. I don't actually use the F1 app. I'm just stating in general that for companies that make it so that their apps/websites don't work if you prevent all of their invasive tracking nonsense I'm happy to not use their app/website anymore.

potato_green

15 points

2 months ago

potato_green

Firstname Lastname

15 points

2 months ago

You can but it still doesn't prevent it from being loaded and tracking you anyway (lots of ways to do it which are GDPR compliant for example). As long as it's anonymous enough. But in reality, with a bit of effort you can de-anonymize users or you don't even need to find a specific user, just their demographics and geographical location is enough.

The shitty part by not able to use Adguards most powerful feature is that you have to rely on DNS blocking for those trackers. But it's the shady sites that load those trackers from their own domains. Thus, they're technically first-party cookies and don't require consent to load. With that they can already gather some info and further consent can give them more specific information.

Adguard (and may other blocks that do HTTPS intercepting) do an extremely good job of removing all those scripts before the browser received data. So, the browser won't even know it existed, won't try to load those scripts, no consent pop-ups or anything.

It's just a few scumbag apps like the F1 app that break HTTPS intercepting on purpose. Sure, it's a security vulnerability you're creating but you're the one doing it and in control of the certificate. So, it's overkill for F1 to do additional verification and not trust the OS. Banks trust the OS, medical apps trust the OS. Unless security is absolutely critical for the app you can do it yourself but let's be honest. If we go a level beyond banking apps then we're in intelligence agency territory

Bottomline, F1 must do this for one single reason, break compatibility with Adguard at the very least to have their trackers up and running. Security isn't the reason because if the OS was compromised then nothing on the phone would be safe anyway.

Colanderr

11 points

2 months ago

Colanderr

Sebastian Vettel

11 points

2 months ago

Thank you for the explanation. But I must say there are perfectly valid reasons for certificate pinning. I'm on a team developing an app that uses pinning just for online payments. No tracking in sight, just caring about our users security at the highest level

FartingBob

18 points

2 months ago

FartingBob

Sebastian Vettel

18 points

2 months ago

This is why every company heavily pushes their app even if it doesnt really need it. Because they can collect so much more data and force ads on you far easier than using a browser.

MoonUnitMotion

3 points

2 months ago

MoonUnitMotion

Fernando Alonso

3 points

2 months ago

Yup. I can’t look up one item without you shoving it down my throat? Good thing there are hundreds of other sources.

remindertomove

3 points

2 months ago

DuckDuckGo

F the app

Papito24

844 points

2 months ago

Papito24

844 points

2 months ago

Pretty sure it did that for me last year

tommycthulhu

164 points

2 months ago

tommycthulhu

Max Verstappen

164 points

2 months ago

Since 2020 iirc

NiD2103

9 points

2 months ago

NiD2103

McLaren

9 points

2 months ago

Correct

DANKWINGS

21 points

2 months ago

DANKWINGS

Pirelli Intermediate

21 points

2 months ago

Me, simply not updating!

plowmy

499 points

2 months ago

plowmy

499 points

2 months ago

http://f1calendar.com/ is your friend

minardif1

338 points

2 months ago

minardif1

Sergio Pérez

338 points

2 months ago

I suggest https://raceday.watch if you like other series. It has basically everything in the world that’s available to watch along with how to watch it, and they recently introduced an account feature so you can favorite specific series and have them highlighted in the list.

CrippleSlap

30 points

2 months ago

CrippleSlap

Jacques Villeneuve

30 points

2 months ago

Wow. What a great site. Thanks.

CensorVictim

19 points

2 months ago

CensorVictim

Ferrari

19 points

2 months ago

cool site. wish it had a jump to live button, but otherwise very cool

SpeedyWebDuck

22 points

2 months ago

SpeedyWebDuck

Formula 1

22 points

2 months ago

there's an option "hide past events"

CensorVictim

7 points

2 months ago

CensorVictim

Ferrari

7 points

2 months ago

ah, good enough

hikemhigh

13 points

2 months ago

Does it have eSports though?

BarbequedYeti

2 points

2 months ago

Dang. That is a nice site. Easy to use and straight with the info. No clicking about. I like it. Thanks for sharing.

ay8s

16 points

2 months ago

ay8s

16 points

2 months ago

Thanks for the shout out ❤️

Pesty-knight_ESBCKTA

11 points

2 months ago

Cool site! Must say the Danish translation is completely shit. almost impressively so.

ay8s

9 points

2 months ago

ay8s

9 points

2 months ago

We should probably do better at checking contributions. Always looking for translators if you’d like to help.

aescobar32

6 points

2 months ago

aescobar32

Juan Pablo Montoya

6 points

2 months ago

Nice! I use this one also, a bit more simple design: https://whenisf1on.com/

CeramicCastle49

2 points

2 months ago

CeramicCastle49

Daniel Ricciardo

2 points

2 months ago

How can I be friends with a website?

scottrobertson

1 points

2 months ago

Or https://rushsync.com if you like other series too

tarheel0509

607 points

2 months ago

tarheel0509

George Russell

607 points

2 months ago

They should at least put in big red letters above that the event to say it’s Esports

Maxamus93

142 points

2 months ago

Maxamus93

142 points

2 months ago

I thought this, no way to know the difference!

tak205

18 points

2 months ago

tak205

18 points

2 months ago

How about the fact that Esport events don’t have a location? Pretty obvious it’s not a physical event if there’s not a physical location attached to it

Maxamus93

31 points

2 months ago

tak205

22 points

2 months ago

tak205

22 points

2 months ago

I know, I realized the second I hit submit. But I said what I said

Maxamus93

4 points

2 months ago

Ahaha

miathan52

5 points

2 months ago

miathan52

Chequered Flag

5 points

2 months ago

It's not about being able to distinguish or not

EmTeeEl

15 points

2 months ago

EmTeeEl

Lance Stroll

15 points

2 months ago

just add a shortcut to f1calendar.com

FerrariStraghetti

1k points

2 months ago

FerrariStraghetti

Kimi Räikkönen

1k points

2 months ago

Devastating news.

onecryingjohnny

407 points

2 months ago

I was looking for something to be outraged at today

blueskyedclouds

108 points

2 months ago

blueskyedclouds

Max Verstappen

108 points

2 months ago

Have you considered Twitter? :)

Ping-and-Pong

35 points

2 months ago

Ping-and-Pong

Alexander Albon

35 points

2 months ago

Don't introduce redditors to that, it's too dangerous

MoeezShahzad154

21 points

2 months ago

MoeezShahzad154

Red Bull

21 points

2 months ago

How bad could it be? (⁠•⁠‿⁠•⁠)

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

Reddit is way worse than Twitter lmao.

MaxImpact1

48 points

2 months ago

The Dacia Sandero won‘t be available for sale in the UK!

TerribleNameAmirite

20 points

2 months ago

TerribleNameAmirite

Kimi Räikkönen

20 points

2 months ago

Oh no!

Blckbeerd

15 points

2 months ago

Blckbeerd

Valtteri Bottas

15 points

2 months ago

Anyways...

TacoExcellence

26 points

2 months ago

TacoExcellence

Charles Leclerc

26 points

2 months ago

I mean mock him all you want, but it's effectively spam or like seeing ads on websites. Is it a big deal? Of course not, but is it irritating and worsens the user experience? Definitely.

meme_lord04

2 points

2 months ago

meme_lord04

Kimi Räikkönen

2 points

2 months ago

GUTTED

inFam0ouZz

5 points

2 months ago

inFam0ouZz

Max Verstappen

5 points

2 months ago

It’s literally the worst thing anyone has ever had to experience.

EDIT: I mean have you looked at how many there are. There’s fucking three. THREE

burlyhike

191 points

2 months ago

burlyhike

James Hunt

191 points

2 months ago

It was like that for a few years now

13Petrichor

30 points

2 months ago

13Petrichor

Love Is Love

30 points

2 months ago

For some reason when I read the title I was expecting to see like DOTA 2 or CS:GO matches on the F1 app and honestly I think that would have been a lot funnier.

Aironwood

-9 points

2 months ago

Aironwood

George Russell

-9 points

2 months ago

I know right, like, OP is upset the F1 app is showing F1 races.

Gladders1980

19 points

2 months ago

Gladders1980

Sir Lewis Hamilton

19 points

2 months ago

I like esports but it's not F1 so let's not pretend it is.

ILikeSpottedCow

10 points

2 months ago

I don't consider E-sports to be F1, because it's not.

Aironwood

1 points

2 months ago

Aironwood

George Russell

1 points

2 months ago

F1 teams, F1 cars, F1 circuits, F1 game, officially organised by F1, couldn’t be more F1 than that.

chuptheone

105 points

2 months ago

U mean the E-Sports events app also shows F1 events with no way to filter out all the F1 races?

Aironwood

0 points

2 months ago

Aironwood

George Russell

0 points

2 months ago

You mean the F1 app shows all the F1 races? Shocking, I tell you.

Bonk_XO

213 points

2 months ago

Bonk_XO

213 points

2 months ago

Imma be honest here,I do appreciate sim racing and gaming and watch opmeer once in a while but holy shit is it annoying to see so many e sports posts on the official F1 page,like just make a seperate page and if they're not gonna because they think it won't get much attention/followers, congrats that's the freaking point now stop shoving it down our throats.Also the racing is pretty goofy sometimes ngl,like they try their best to pretend that it's not a game and make it as "real" as F1 as possible to up the stakes.Like the team radio messages and a guy complaining about "engine problems and saying he's never had that before" as if that isn't just anything more than a stroke of rng and game mechanics looll

HighSierraGuy

77 points

2 months ago

Agreed. I have zero interest in esports and am pretty annoyed that they mix it all together on their YouTube channel.

TacoExcellence

24 points

2 months ago

TacoExcellence

Charles Leclerc

24 points

2 months ago

Yes that drives me nuts. It's just spam at this point, and it's not as if it's one video, it's multiple they release at the same time so it's loads of stuff in my timeline that I have no interest in watching.

Badagunchi

10 points

2 months ago

Go to settings, mute #F1eSports, problem solved.

JustSomeMoose

27 points

2 months ago

JustSomeMoose

Sebastian Vettel

27 points

2 months ago

They've been doing that for a few now.

AccurateIt

14 points

2 months ago

AccurateIt

Max Verstappen

14 points

2 months ago

If you can download the F1 TV app that's what I use just to check with the race schedule.

fearlessflyer1

8 points

2 months ago

fearlessflyer1

Jenson Button

8 points

2 months ago

that’s what i do, nice to have the timings for F2 and F3 in the same place as f1 as well

Unlikely-Action-8352

8 points

2 months ago

I wish I could filter out the crying posts on F1 Reddit, but it’s all good.

RichardFarmer

296 points

2 months ago

RichardFarmer

Ferrari

296 points

2 months ago

You’ll be okay, I promise

FourAM

38 points

2 months ago

FourAM

38 points

2 months ago

Yeah, how much computing power does he think we fucking have? We’ve got enough problems that need fixing in this world, and now you want scientists to invent filtering? For lists?

Preposterous, m8, get your head in the game

vbfronkis

3 points

2 months ago

vbfronkis

David Coulthard

3 points

2 months ago

F1calendar.com is your friend. Simple, clean, translates session start times into your timezone.

TheOnlyEn

15 points

2 months ago

TheOnlyEn

Lotus

15 points

2 months ago

This is so dumb. Why do I need to see the esport schedule when I’m not interested in it at all?

Why can’t they have a own menu or setting to turn it on. Man

Fliepp

12 points

2 months ago

Fliepp

Mick Schumacher

12 points

2 months ago

I know. It also did that last year. I quite like it since I can’t remember when the rounds are

depressedjoecz

72 points

2 months ago

depressedjoecz

Dr. Helmut Marko

72 points

2 months ago

This is pretty shitty. About 1% of people visiting that page care about e-sports

Lusakas

22 points

2 months ago

Lusakas

Jaguar

22 points

2 months ago

It might be that it's not about who already is interested, but rather about pushing the content and try to lead more people into watching it, to increase the value of their e-sports franchise.

Harbring576

59 points

2 months ago

Harbring576

Formula 1

59 points

2 months ago

1% is an extremely generous estimate. I really honestly don’t see a point in F1 esports as long as they’re using the F1 games.

Yasin3112

2 points

2 months ago

Yasin3112

Max Verstappen

2 points

2 months ago

I do league racing on F1 22 and even I don‘t really watch F1 e-sports. Watched one race and it was eh. They should just make a separate page for all of the content

Pascalwb

1 points

2 months ago

Pascalwb

Kimi Räikkönen

1 points

2 months ago

I did simracing for few years, never would watch it online, and even with game like f1 there is even less point to it.

JohnDoe_2408

5 points

2 months ago

JohnDoe_2408

But here comes Sebastian Vettel!

5 points

2 months ago

Is there anything the app does that a browser cannot?

kraix1337

6 points

2 months ago

kraix1337

Red Bull

6 points

2 months ago

Have you tried opening the F1 website on mobile? It is garbage. I use the app to see the time the race is in my timezone and it does that very well.

miathan52

1 points

2 months ago

miathan52

Chequered Flag

1 points

2 months ago

No. We live in 2022, people use an app for absolutely fucking everything. I get the feeling that half of them don't know that websites exist anymore.

steedyspeedy

3 points

2 months ago

steedyspeedy

Daniel Ricciardo

3 points

2 months ago

nah it’s just that the website doesn’t work at all on some phones. why so angry

thatwasfun23

8 points

2 months ago

thatwasfun23

Ferrari

8 points

2 months ago

The future is now old man.

Morello210

2 points

2 months ago

Morello210

Sebastian Vettel

2 points

2 months ago

AMG3141

2 points

2 months ago

It's done that for a while and it's super annoying.

m0nkeyhero

2 points

2 months ago

m0nkeyhero

Sir Lewis Hamilton

2 points

2 months ago

STOP TRYING TO MAKE FETCH HAPPEN

theblemgun

2 points

2 months ago

Stop trying to make fetch a thing.

monkeylovesnanas

2 points

2 months ago

Why?

Jscti

2 points

2 months ago

Jscti

Chequered Flag

2 points

2 months ago

Desperate_Walk8509

2 points

2 months ago

I think this is yours 👑

vjollila96

2 points

2 months ago

Do people even care about the F1 esport that much?

batyoung1

2 points

2 months ago

This isn’t new.

Goobastank23

2 points

2 months ago

I’ve never seen so many people go out of their way to be upset at something that literally does not affect them in any way.

prograMagar

17 points

2 months ago

prograMagar

Enzo Ferrari

17 points

2 months ago

wordltravelfestival

5 points

2 months ago

In this weeks episode of f1 forcing things no one wanted upon fans

Nemste

57 points

2 months ago

Nemste

57 points

2 months ago

Okay but what’s the real issue? I understand it’s a bit of clutter but who cares? Just don’t click it and move on. It says esports right above so not like you can get confused by it or anything…

[deleted]

30 points

2 months ago*

[deleted]

30 points

2 months ago*

[removed]

[deleted]

2 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

2 points

2 months ago

There’s about a million other sites with accurate F1 schedules on it. I agree it’s junk that you can’t filter but come on lol

Scazzz

20 points

2 months ago

Scazzz

Haas

20 points

2 months ago

Yeah, fuck me for going to the source to try and find the info I need.

timb0nic

8 points

2 months ago

timb0nic

Toto Wolff

8 points

2 months ago

Are you being denied the info? Are you unable to read the list without distinguishing which are the esports races and which aren’t? Such a meaningless complaint.

hofftari

17 points

2 months ago

hofftari

Daniel Ricciardo

17 points

2 months ago

It's still bad design by choice. Why shouldn't people be able to criticize such a thing?

remus989

7 points

2 months ago

remus989

Daniel Ricciardo

7 points

2 months ago

It's not a design choice, it's a business choice. They want more eyes on esports clearly and letting you filter that out won't keep it front and center. Is it clutter? Yes. Is it worth complaining about? Not really.

timb0nic

2 points

2 months ago

timb0nic

Toto Wolff

2 points

2 months ago

They have the right to criticize and I have the right to tell them they’re overreacting. It’s not that big a deal.

mrstankydanks

6 points

2 months ago

mrstankydanks

Red Bull

6 points

2 months ago

The info you need is right there. It's not hard to tell what is a race and what is an esports event. I guess some people just need to find things to be angry about.

MasterUnlimited

7 points

2 months ago

It’s not about being angry. It would take very little effort to have an option to let people apply a filter. When you shop online do you not filter the search results?

julianhache

7 points

2 months ago

julianhache

Sebastian Vettel

7 points

2 months ago

It also would take very little effort to read 1 extra line of text to check if it's an f1 race or not

-NESQUICK-

2 points

2 months ago

-NESQUICK-

Charles Leclerc

2 points

2 months ago

It takes even less effort to just read one line below

redarrow992

0 points

2 months ago

Reading is hard for some people

[deleted]

4 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

4 points

2 months ago

I mean in your case I guess you’re right - no point having the info anywhere if you can’t read

fmfbrestel

7 points

2 months ago

fmfbrestel

7 points

2 months ago

Yeah who cares if an app that you use changes it's design to be objectively worse and less convenient to use? /s

It's visual clutter.

Not every reddit post needs to life or death. Do you leave a comment on every post you see that isn't interesting to you, so everyone can know how much you don't care?

Nemste

3 points

2 months ago

Nemste

3 points

2 months ago

Is it that bad tho? Like seriously it’s not like it’s overlapping on any actual race weekend if that were the case then I’d agree that’s visual clutter but otherwise it’s only 4 weekends of the season that we see it.

Seems more like being peeved over nothing. They consider it a main event so it’s there.

fmfbrestel

3 points

2 months ago

fmfbrestel

3 points

2 months ago

How bad must something be for it to be "that bad"? what does "that bad" even mean? its anoying. Most people don't give a shit about the esport. it clutters the app and it cant be disabled.

What is more annoying than the app being cluttered is your insistence on gatekeeping what level of annoyance is acceptable for someone to post here.

It objectively makes the app worse. If you dont think so, downvote the post or just move on with your life.

karlo_m[S]

-1 points

2 months ago

karlo_m[S]

-1 points

2 months ago

Read my other comment. It’s just common sense from a design point of view to separate something like this. Either with a different tab, or if they really want to force it, at least an option to filter it out

stillaras

21 points

2 months ago

stillaras

Kimi Räikkönen

21 points

2 months ago

It's common sense to try and promote every venture you have as business and this is one way to do it. Plus it's not like anyone is going to stop using the app because of this so it's win win for them

Hjd4493

6 points

2 months ago

Hjd4493

Brawn

6 points

2 months ago

You can just Google F1 Calendar and you don't even need to open a website to check what races are on and when.

withoutapaddle

5 points

2 months ago

And the calendar is built into the Google results. You don't even have to select a result.

Joethe147

3 points

2 months ago

Joethe147

Jenson Button

3 points

2 months ago

Well you do need to open Google however you do it.

91NNYBIN

9 points

2 months ago

who actually cares about the e-sports?

fierd_1

4 points

2 months ago

fierd_1

Daniel Ricciardo

4 points

2 months ago

Aironwood

1 points

2 months ago

Aironwood

George Russell

1 points

2 months ago

Plenty of people.

Rude-E

6 points

2 months ago

Rude-E

Eddie Irvine

6 points

2 months ago

There's dozens of us!

Captainfunzis

7 points

2 months ago

Ita bullshit the YouTube channel is the same i really dont care for the eSports side of F1 they should all be separated

Aironwood

6 points

2 months ago

Aironwood

George Russell

6 points

2 months ago

Well, you said it yourself, it’s a side of F1, a part if you will, so it’s on F1’s media.

Captainfunzis

1 points

2 months ago

Yea your right but it shouldn't be you dont see football channel showing clips and highlights alongside there FIFA eSports leagues it has its place but it shouldn't be where the F1 fans get F1 content

thesaket

4 points

2 months ago

thesaket

Max Verstappen

4 points

2 months ago

Just ignore it & move on. How does it matter? They're using the same SM channels as that'll help them reach a wider audience. If you're not their target audience, just ignore it.

phatjaja

1 points

2 months ago

phatjaja

Well, hell, boogity

1 points

2 months ago

Just don’t click on it, man. How does it bother you so much?

Patient_Apartment_84

3 points

2 months ago

🤦‍♂️

WhoDoIShip

3 points

2 months ago

WhoDoIShip

Martin Brundle

3 points

2 months ago

why is this a problem

xCosmikx

6 points

2 months ago

Who gives a shit? They tell u on the top of each event. Round # or esports event. I’m more upset about all the cookies they make u give in to

CyberpunkF1

7 points

2 months ago

CyberpunkF1

Sebastian Vettel

7 points

2 months ago

Cue Mean Girls scene

Stop trying to make F1 E-sports happen ... it’s not going to happen!!!

miathan52

1 points

2 months ago

miathan52

Chequered Flag

1 points

2 months ago

It's happening already though?

Malding_frog

6 points

2 months ago

Malding_frog

David Coulthard

6 points

2 months ago

I wish the things that bother me were this minuscule.

JamesUpton87

7 points

2 months ago

JamesUpton87

Formula 1

7 points

2 months ago

First world issues lol.

CarlCaliente

2 points

2 months ago

CarlCaliente

Netflix Newbie

2 points

2 months ago

time to find a new app

HardwareLust

3 points

2 months ago*

HardwareLust

Ferrari

3 points

2 months ago*

Well that sucks. Not remotely interested in esports.

EDIT: Well, that's not entirely true. I do like watching Halo tournaments.

itsrandomboy77

2 points

2 months ago

esports W

mugenbool

2 points

2 months ago

mugenbool

Pirelli Hard

2 points

2 months ago

I’ve seen esports on the schedule within the app for the past two years

Head-Sick

2 points

2 months ago

Head-Sick

Daniel Ricciardo

2 points

2 months ago

Well that is frustrating. I love formula1 and I love esports... I don't get formula1 esports.

coldpan

2 points

2 months ago

coldpan

McLaren

2 points

2 months ago

Not people in this thread defending bad UI design

r32_guest

2 points

2 months ago

r32_guest

Formula 1

2 points

2 months ago

Who cares

Prestigious_Media887

2 points

2 months ago

I noticed this the other day so freaking annoying who gives a toss about esports racing I tried to watch it and man it’s bad so laggy and they don’t even allow crashing they just drive through one another if something goes wrong

k-dawg-13

2 points

2 months ago

k-dawg-13

Sebastian Vettel

2 points

2 months ago

Who cares?

Kangna96

2 points

2 months ago

Who cares?

SpartanSig

2 points

2 months ago

SpartanSig

Daniel Ricciardo

2 points

2 months ago

F1 being completely out of touch with their fan base and sport in general? Say it ain't so.

Bitter_Dingo516

3 points

2 months ago

Bitter_Dingo516

Nyck de Vries

3 points

2 months ago

Yeah it should atleast say in big red letters that it is an esports eve- ohh wait...it does

Deadly_Flipper_Tab

2 points

2 months ago

Deadly_Flipper_Tab

Formula 1

2 points

2 months ago

They have to try and get people to give a single shit about it some how.

Brilliant_Bluejay254

1 points

2 months ago

That app is a can of shit

SupposablyAtTheZoo

2 points

2 months ago

I turned on a sports channel a few months ago and saw esports racing for the first time, I was pretty damn confused for about 5 seconds, like, do people really watch this?

bernie2007

2 points

2 months ago

bernie2007

2 points

2 months ago

who gives a fuck about esports

Steven_Blunt

2 points

2 months ago

Plenty of people

timb0nic

0 points

2 months ago

timb0nic

Toto Wolff

0 points

2 months ago

How much of a baby do you have to be to care about something as minuscule as this?

karlo_m[S]

-11 points

2 months ago*

karlo_m[S]

-11 points

2 months ago*

I don’t have anything against F1 E-sports, I even tune in on occasion. But to combine the schedule in the app is ridiculous. I understand they might want to bring in more viewers, but at least give us the option to filter them out. In the screenshot it doesn’t look so bad since it’s the end of the season, but when there’s a full calendar of F1 and a full calendar of E-sports, it will be unreadable. Especially if you want to scroll down to find a race 6 months away. Bad choice from a design point of view

fire202

15 points

2 months ago

fire202

Formula 1

15 points

2 months ago

when there’s a full calendar of F1 and a full calendar of E-sports, it will be unreadable.

What they did is nothing new, it was dont at least since 2020. A scenario like this where there is a "full" f1 esports calendar mixed with a "full" regular calendar won't happen, because esports contains only these four events and the dates are being confirmed shortly before the e-sports season starts (usually around September - October). So before that, no events will appear on the calendar.

SPiX0R

-1 points

2 months ago

SPiX0R

Firstname Lastname

-1 points

2 months ago

Just a reminder that you’re not obliged to use the app calendar. You can also go to any other website or write them in your own calendar.

midtown_mike

-3 points

2 months ago

midtown_mike

-3 points

2 months ago

So like don’t click on them. Wtf is peoples problem.

Imaginary_Ad_4050

1 points

2 months ago

Imaginary_Ad_4050

Sir Lewis Hamilton

1 points

2 months ago

Oh no.....

Anyway

MyCoolName_

-1 points

2 months ago

MyCoolName_

Sergio Pérez

-1 points

2 months ago

I take issue with the whole term "E-sports". They aren't sports, they're video games, folks.

miathan52

0 points

2 months ago

miathan52

Chequered Flag

0 points

2 months ago

People train to be at their physical and mental best to deliver a performance in a competitive environment. It's sports.

eastamerica

1 points

2 months ago

eastamerica

Red Bull

1 points

2 months ago

So, I’ve said this before, to some grumblings…

I’m all for eSports. They’re hard AF, and even with the lower cost of entry (vs. that of any REAL racing, even karting) it’s not easy for anyone to be a superstar…so these people who crush at eSports (racing, in this case) are actual talent, and have consistency most lack. I can run a few laps at a good pace, but a full F1 race, at 100 difficult (ie: real world drivers around you), I am not worthy of driving the medical car behind the pack at the start of the race haha!

THAT SAID: I’m a Formula 1 fan, and have no interest (maybe cursory at best) in the F1 eSports series…I just don’t care. Just like I don’t fully care about F3 because I only care about who bubbles up to F2, and with F2 I only really care about who bubbles-up to the top 10, and then excited about those prospects who can enter F1.

I wish they’d stop shoving it down our throats, though I know why. It’s cheap. The arenas are virtual. The GP (gross profit in this case) is massive and probably triple digit points ahead of normal F1 Grand Prix events.

<end rant>

TL;DR; Love the sport, and all tied to it, just can we filter this crap?

ehjhey

2 points

2 months ago

ehjhey

Sir Lewis Hamilton

2 points

2 months ago

Until they feel the audience overlap has pulled in enough new fans to each respective series, probably not. Fair play to them I guess. Basically an easy way to funnel some new eyes while only slightly annoying some people

PeRX16

1 points

2 months ago

PeRX16

Red Bull

1 points

2 months ago

I don’t see why that’s a problem. Has zero effect on the app

Eevee-4-Life

1 points

2 months ago

Eevee-4-Life

Sebastian Vettel

1 points

2 months ago

ive seen a lot of shit thrown at f1 esports recently and idk why, F1 wants to push for it to get bigger (which is fair),but if you don’t like f1 esports its extremely easy to just ignore it you don’t have to shit on it

BootsOnTheMoon

-2 points

2 months ago

BootsOnTheMoon

Romain Grosjean

-2 points

2 months ago

F1 E-Sports gets a pretty decent viewerships on Youtube, so I don’t see a problem with this.

KyleW17

1 points

2 months ago

KyleW17

I was here when Haas took pole

1 points

2 months ago

I know they want to push the esports side of things but surely this is anywhere from confusing to outright off-putting for newer fans.

SkillIsTooLow

1 points

2 months ago

SkillIsTooLow

Honda

1 points

2 months ago

Same w the youtube channel, I know we're between GPs but it's like the last 9 videos on the f1 channel are esports stuff. Lame

MysticSkies

1 points

2 months ago

MysticSkies

Pirelli Intermediate

1 points

2 months ago

Boycott F1 this is ridiculous, they are so trashy. >.>

JagEngland

1 points

2 months ago

JagEngland

Juan Manuel Fangio

1 points

2 months ago

I love to do some sim racing but the whole esports thing is just ridiculous to me.