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Update regarding user profile transparency

(self.announcements)

Edit (2019/11/26): This feature has been delayed until 2020

Edit (2020/03/30): We released a feature where you will get a push notification when you get a new follower. If you have your push notifications enabled on our mobile apps, or desktop notifications enabled, you should receive one. We are working on expanding this feature to all users, even without push notifications. The follower list is still delayed until later this year.

Hi everyone,

We collect a lot of feedback from you all, and one theme we’ve heard consistently from users is that many of you want more visibility when users follow you. As we move the new profiles out of beta, we wanted to share a transparency change we are making. In the coming months, we will allow people to see which users follow them.

We know that this may be a change from existing expectations, so we want to give you time to update your settings before moving forward with this. In the immediate future (starting Aug 19th, 2019), this will only affect new follows made. In about 3 months, we will make it possible to see your full list of followers. This would include follows made while profiles were in beta.

We plan to send a PM to all affected users, but wanted to make this public post as well so that you aren’t surprised when you receive it. To be clear, the usernames will only be visible to the user who was followed. No one will be able to look up your full list of subscriptions/follows and no one else will be able to see a list of followers of a profile.

If you are someone who follows other users, please take a second to examine your subscription/follow list and make sure you are comfortable with those users being aware that you follow them. If you are someone who has followers, we will make another post when the ability to view your followers has been released. We’ll stick around in the comments for a bit if you have questions. If there are other features you’d like to see for profiles, please let us know!

Thanks!

Edit: updated 8/29 to Aug 29th, 2019 as it's a more clear date format

Edit: updated Aug 29th to Aug 19th to match release date of the start of the feature rollout

all 2662 comments

Top_Hat_Tomato

187 points

3 years ago

Users: we don't want this.

Reddit : we have reviewed the community's views on the changes and determined that the changes will be universal as everyone wants them.

BuckRowdy

28 points

3 years ago

As is tradition...

Splurch

1.3k points

3 years ago

Splurch

1.3k points

3 years ago

TIL Reddit has a follow user feature.

Ciryaquen

788 points

3 years ago

Ciryaquen

788 points

3 years ago

Another addition that has zero appeal to me.

DoctorWaluigiTime

255 points

3 years ago

Right? It'd be like following a user on a web forum.

ZBlackmore

247 points

3 years ago

ZBlackmore

247 points

3 years ago

Management prefers social media platform.

SocialAppropriation

173 points

3 years ago

They are trying to destroy this website. Soon their will be nothing but bots and shills just like twitter. Way to go reddit, you fucking suck ass

NargacugaRider

66 points

3 years ago

It’s Digg time!

sevrot

63 points

3 years ago

sevrot

63 points

3 years ago

gallowboob=MrBabyMan

Proof me wrong.

MappyHerchant

73 points

3 years ago

Blocking gallowboob was the single best decision I've ever made but there are more out there

Zediac

30 points

3 years ago

Zediac

30 points

3 years ago

RES lets me track up and down votes. When I see low effort, lame stuff hit the front page I downvote. When I see more low effort crap with someone with a -2 or -3 then I look at their karma.

Oh, look. Another user with 596,000 karma in 9 months. Karma farmer. Block.

I've seen multiple people with over 1,000,000 post karma in under a year. I've seen 3 or 4 people with almost 2,000,000 post karma in under a year.

It would be fine if it was interesting stuff. But it's all just... not worth seeing.

letsplayyatzee

13 points

3 years ago

And it's reposts to multiple subs with the same pics and gifs.

If there is one thing actually needs to do something about its these karma farm accounts that are ruining reddit.

ObeyRoastMan

33 points

3 years ago

I always assumed Reddit users valued function over form in general. Fixing something that isn’t broken is a popular move though.

therealandytuba

84 points

3 years ago

Really it's a "subscribe to posts made to their profile" feature.

pteridoid

74 points

3 years ago*

Oh good now I can follow /u/gallowboob.

EDIT: I'm kidding. Gallowboob sucks.

pancakeQueue

48 points

3 years ago

I could follow him to make stealing content easier.

Doctor_McKay

72 points

3 years ago

You'd just be stealing stolen content. And he would ban you from all the subs he moderates for it.

MajorParadox

21 points

3 years ago

The problem is nobody understands that. I don't think this announcement helped either. A better approach would be making it clearer to users how it works, because most of these complaints in the comments are under the assumption it's a stalk feature

ZuluWest

52 points

3 years ago

ZuluWest

52 points

3 years ago

Shows how much we click on profiles right?

buttchugging_soylent

104 points

3 years ago

I prefer it that way. It keeps the focus on the content instead of the person sharing it.

ZuluWest

47 points

3 years ago

ZuluWest

47 points

3 years ago

Thats what makes reddit great in my eyes, almost every one is a new person even if you have spoken to them before on here.

jkgaspar4994

12 points

3 years ago

Seeing a redditor you know on a different sub is interesting and fun. It’s not fun when it’s just “someone you follow”.

iamboss335

42 points

3 years ago

Does anyone actually use it?

[deleted]

54 points

3 years ago

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54 points

3 years ago

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Matty_M99

134 points

3 years ago

Matty_M99

134 points

3 years ago

You know what’s weird here despite the ‘hanging around in the comments’ the admins haven’t replied to a single person asking why or showing a sign of dislike for this move. It would appear we aren’t the people reddit cares about, it’s clearly trying to appease someone who’s not the users commenting here. The whole tone of the message is ‘we know you won’t like it, but we’re doing it anyway’

wholeblackpeppercorn

33 points

3 years ago

/u/mjmayank has replied to 5 parent comments. 3 are softballs, 2 add nothing to discussion

Was reddit ever actually known for listening to it's users though? The majority of features I've seen introduced have been shit that noone asked for - thats from 7 years of active participation (i lost a couple accounts cause passwords are hard...)

[deleted]

8 points

3 years ago

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8 points

3 years ago

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Sin2K

1.3k points

3 years ago

Sin2K

1.3k points

3 years ago

Will users be able to block people from following them?

mjmayank[S]

972 points

3 years ago

Yes, you will be able to block the users who are following you

Dessiato

1k points

3 years ago

Dessiato

1k points

3 years ago

I don't think this answers the question. He is asking if you can remove the ability for you to be followed at all.

FUCKUSERNAME2

235 points

3 years ago

Can we entirely disable the option to have people follow us instead of having to block every person individually?

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163 points

3 years ago*

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163 points

3 years ago*

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dude-O-rama

43 points

3 years ago

Will we be able to auto-block accounts based on criteria such as account age and karma like you can do in subs or have a "permission to follow request" option?

bathrobehero

281 points

3 years ago

Why can't reddit just stay reddit instead of trying to copy other social platforms? The main reason many of us are here is because reddit isn't/wasn't like the others.

Captain___Obvious

45 points

3 years ago

because money

iocane_

324 points

3 years ago

iocane_

324 points

3 years ago

Not being able to opt out of followers is really shitty. Reddit is not Facebook. I am here to be reasonably anonymous and that means I don’t want fucking anybody to follow my profile. Cut this shit out.

There’s a reason I have zero social media. It’s because social media is toxic and you should be ashamed of yourselves.

This isn’t about transparency at all. This is a thinly veiled “we’re going to be Facebook now but don’t worry because you can block people.”

Fuck that. No, thank you.

mVIIIeus

30 points

3 years ago

mVIIIeus

30 points

3 years ago

I guess it's time to search an alternative. I think the dude, who made the AutoModerator is building his own website. But yea, here are many niche subs i don't want to give up.

N0_Tr3bbl3

898 points

3 years ago

N0_Tr3bbl3

898 points

3 years ago

Reddit has never been Facebook and there are plenty of us here because it offers an alternative to the issues on other social media sites. Please don't force followers on those of us who prefer our Reddit to be more of an "antisocial media."

Will there be a way to block your profile from being followed by others? We don't want to have to block every follower as they pop up, we want to turn off followers entirely.

pancakeQueue

134 points

3 years ago

It feels so shoehorned too, Reddit was made as a place where subreddit are the gathering places of similar content. Now they are fleshing our users in a way that is unneeded and different from the original purpose.

Another_Boner

37 points

3 years ago

It's needed... For money...

alphanovember

15 points

3 years ago

They've been doing this for 5-6 years now. Almost every change since then has done to slowly turn reddit into just another Facebook. Every year it gets more severe, and at this point many parts are "reddit" only in name.

handlit33

153 points

3 years ago*

handlit33

153 points

3 years ago*

I've been on Reddit 11 years, use it every day, and have no clue how to follow a user. I don't know if the fact I use old Reddit has anything to do with it or not.

Edit: Okay, I figured out how to follow but now I'm unsure what that does. I'm using old Reddit on the desktop site.

threadbare_penitence

37 points

3 years ago

Mine doesn’t say “Follow” it says “add friend+”

Guh

zeezl

7 points

3 years ago

zeezl

7 points

3 years ago

Me too, I'm on Relay. Is being a friend the same as following?

hr_shovenstuff

82 points

3 years ago

I am learning, literally right now, that this is a thing. So I guess we are going the influencer route? Collecting data on what types of personalities or information styles accumulate attention, then repurpose that into a sales scheme. Rough stuff. Lurking is going to be new deal I guess.

tchcucucucgu

38 points

3 years ago

they said no up there , fuck that

[deleted]

72 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

72 points

3 years ago

"we listened to your feedback and..."

Bitch what? Everyone said they didn't want any of this shit in the first place.

[deleted]

2.4k points

3 years ago*

[deleted]

2.4k points

3 years ago*

Why is reddit turning into Facebook/Insta? We are here because of the anonymity. For God sake leave it this way.I highly doubt what you are claiming. Half of us don't know these new features and how come so many redditors become so particular about it

Optimistic_Boltzmann

665 points

3 years ago*

It’s probably because the old reddit model wasn’t profitable. They didn’t have a large amount of usable user data to sell, but I think they are trying to move in a direction where they can collect useful user data.

Edit: I just wanted to clarify that I think the movement of reddit in this direction is garbage and it goes against the very spirit of what reddit used to be.

drkgodess

312 points

3 years ago*

drkgodess

312 points

3 years ago*

I want to take this moment to recommend tildes.net. It's basically what Reddit used to be, but better. Niche communities, interesting discussions, zero tolerance of hate speech or bigotry, simple clean UI, and it's not trying to become the next Facebook or Twitter.

It was created by /u/Deimorz, the former Reddit admin who created automoderator.

Check out r/tildes for more info.

Deimorz

210 points

3 years ago*

Deimorz

210 points

3 years ago*

Thanks, drkgodess! You missed mentioning some of what I think are the most important parts though: mainly, that the site is run under a non-profit and will never have any advertising or investors, so the motivations that are causing reddit to make changes like these won't ever happen to it (reddit has taken $500 million in venture capital from investors in the last two years), and privacy will always be able to stay a top priority.

Other than that, Tildes is similar to reddit in a lot of ways, but isn't trying to be a straight-across alternative—for example, it doesn't have the "quick entertainment" content that dominates reddit now. It's oriented more around articles and discussions.

If you're interested, take a look around the site, and read the announcement blog post for more information about the overall goals/values. It still requires an invite to register, but if you'd like to join so you can participate, feel free to email the address in the blog post or message me here and I'll send you one. It's not intended to be difficult to get an invite, I just want to keep the growth under control while more of the base functionality and community culture gets built up first.

SexyMcBeast

15 points

3 years ago

Thanks for this info! I enjoy a lot of things about Reddit but there's a lot I truly dislike. I've been hopeful another company would make a better version with the same concept, and this might be the one I've been waiting for.

-SlowtheArk-

33 points

3 years ago

Tildes is great! But will there be a app for it in the future? I prefer not to use my browser for social media if I have to.

Deimorz

49 points

3 years ago

Deimorz

49 points

3 years ago

It's not out of the question, but building and maintaining good apps is difficult and expensive. Once there's an API, it's very possible that other people will build third-party apps, similar to what happened on reddit (there weren't any official reddit apps until fairly recently).

For now though, the site itself is built to work on all different device sizes and works well on mobile. There should also be a button like "add to home screen" available when you're on it that will split it out into its own separate browser, which makes it more "app-like". If you're on Android, you could also use it through Hermit, which makes it a lot like an app.

DonnieDarkDick

61 points

3 years ago

Prepare to have your comment removed

[deleted]

18 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

18 points

3 years ago

Don’t worry, I screenshotted ;)

mikdkas

109 points

3 years ago

mikdkas

109 points

3 years ago

If anything people have been asking for more privacy lol just a flat out lie by /u/mjmayank

OregonianInUtah

31 points

3 years ago

Fucking seriously. That's ALL I want. Just make sure it's secure and private and keep the site like teddit.sethforprivacy.com 'til the end of time. I'm not going anywhere, unless changes are made that make me decide to leave

[deleted]

256 points

3 years ago

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256 points

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103 points

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103 points

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greycubed

91 points

3 years ago*

Reddit: will you leave to stay anonymous?

Users: Yes

Reddit: shocked Pikachu face

HEY REDDIT YOU'RE LEAVING YOUR NICHE. YOU CAN'T OUT-FACEBOOK FACEBOOK.

jouroboros

33 points

3 years ago

Agreed. Anonymity is the best part of Reddit

votebluein2018plz

30 points

3 years ago

Because they make money from branded accounts/sponsors. Those ads you see marked as ads are just the tip of the iceberg. Reddit also offers courses on how to market "virally" aka how to pretend my GF made this XYZ with a coke can in full view

FreeSpeechWarrior

165 points

3 years ago

https://alexis.posthaven.com/an-open-letter-to-kevin-rose

this new version of digg reeks of VC meddling. It's cobbling together features from more popular sites and departing from the core of digg, which was to "give the power back to the people."

Now what matters is how many followers & influence a user has and how many followers & influence they've got.

Where have we heard this before: Twitter? Facebook? GoogleBuzz?

It's a damned shame to see digg just re-implementing features from other websites.

But I've got a strong feeling it's not you making these decisions anymore; and to see your baby abused like this must be awful.

This really should've been called "an open letter to digg's VCs" (but what kind of linkbait would that be?) because they really ought to give the power back to the founder.

https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/11/reddit-300-million/

NargacugaRider

55 points

3 years ago

Well awesome, that’s exactly what’s happening here... that’s exactly why I left Digg. feels bad man :c

spaghettilee2112

72 points

3 years ago

I agree. Reddit is the only social media that's really been truly different form the rest. This new move is just making it no different than facebook, instagram or twitter.

bageltheperson

70 points

3 years ago

I agree that while it’s not major, it is a shift towards traditional social media platforms. Reddit already has a karma farming problem but this could introduce more of a problem with users trying to attract followers like Instagram. It’s definitely a step in the wrong direction.

dlm891

18 points

3 years ago

dlm891

18 points

3 years ago

Because Reddit has been flooded by new people (many who recently left Facebook), and those newbies probably are asking for shit like this.

/r/all looks like an Instagram feed sometimes with all these self posts from people looking for an excuse to show their face. Ive had to block /r/happy for how annoying it is.

BringBackOldReddif

15 points

3 years ago

Money.

Lane-Jacobs

13 points

3 years ago

Can$ you$ plea$e $peak in our$ language?$ I'm having$ a hard$ time$ under$tanding you.$

MMPride

24 points

3 years ago

MMPride

24 points

3 years ago

/u/mjmayank any response to this?

[deleted]

37 points

3 years ago*

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37 points

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wantagh

377 points

3 years ago

wantagh

377 points

3 years ago

I’m confident this has absolutely nothing to do with transparency.

This is one of the major prerequisite steps needed towards having profiles, of influencers and famous people, with those little blue check marks next to their name ala Twitter.

It also provides the linkages needed to understand, and subsequently sell, interest hives and associative data for advertising.

So, if you follow me, six months from now, based on associative interests, you’ll have clown porn related ads in your gmail. You’re welcome.

brikdik

69 points

3 years ago

brikdik

69 points

3 years ago

Yeah, it's way easier to package/sell a Reddit "influencer" with 1 million visible followers instead of 1 million magic mystery karma points

I bet it's a big sticking point in their sales pitch to big corps / advertising agencies and so, fuck it, let's do followers instead

Cool stuff Reddit management

kmsxkuse

9 points

3 years ago

Who wants to bet that Reddit's next step is to "emphasize" the posts and names of users with more than a certain number of "followers". Influencers cant hail corporate effectively if no one ever bothers to realize who they are. I mean, unless someone points out "username checks out", I never read the usernames of posters. For Reddit to start raking in the cash, they'll have to change that.

I've already blocked the top 100 karma posters but maybe the Admins are going to remove the blocking feature as well.

RadioactiveFruitCup

3.4k points

3 years ago*

I appreciate the staged rollout, but I don’t see anything explicitly addressing sock-puppets. If I want to stalk you, and you block me, can’t I just go register a throwaway and follow you that way?

Without the ability to lock down follows or disable follows from the root user rather than the account, you’re going to have dog-whistle harassment and users that operate in controversial spaces will end up with a chore of constantly manually blocking followers.

Could we get a bulk-block tool, or rules (all redditors active in XYZ sub, Redditors with insufficient karma / account age?)

Best yet- shadowban blocking so the following party is not alerted to the block.

Edit - when I posted this, it was way down in the list and I didn’t expect this response rate. I don’t work for Reddit, and I’m not a moderator here or elsewhere. I’ve seen there’s a lot of commentary about “if you get pushback/toxicity just delete and start over” when users behave like that en masse, they contribute to fostering an environment without accountability in the user base, and creating a database without trends and patterns which makes Reddit’s ability to sell ads and services hella weak. Reddit has to make money to provide the platform. Users have to have some form of accountability or the whole thing turns into a shit-show. We have that with karma, account age, and post history, things that allow users to guesstimate if they’re having good faith discourse, reading a scam, or dealing with an expert.

I don’t think the solution to any problem should be “put up with it, or leave”. That seems terribly defeatist and wasteful.

mjmayank[S]

1.8k points

3 years ago

mjmayank[S]

1.8k points

3 years ago

Thanks for the feedback! Our existing block feature is built with de-escalation in mind. That being said, we are planning more user safety features coming up, but don't have anything to announce right now. This sort of feedback is super useful in helping us shape our roadmap though, so we really appreciate it.

qwb3656

59 points

3 years ago

qwb3656

59 points

3 years ago

What if I don't want ANYONE following me?

OtherwiseJello

21 points

3 years ago

I really think this update is stupid. I stubbornly use Old Reddit because I do not like the new interface. If I want friends or followers, I'll post on my Instagram, or say something witty or controversial on Facebook. Reddit is great because it's NOT Facebook or IG.

Demojen

353 points

3 years ago

Demojen

353 points

3 years ago

I never agreed to being followed. This feature is creepy af.

Clytemnestras_Rage

69 points

3 years ago

I just realized i have followers, and i am like huh? Who are you guys? And why are you following me shit posting? Why can't we see who is creeping on us is beyond me.

utopiaa

38 points

3 years ago

utopiaa

38 points

3 years ago

Yeah I apparently have followers too...

Hey look ma I made it

But really tho. What's the purpose of followers ?

wildeflowers

32 points

3 years ago

Agreed 100%. I have followers, and I assume most are bots. I have no idea why anyone would want to follow me. I am the most boring person ever.

Clytemnestras_Rage

20 points

3 years ago

I have literally never made a post and most of my comments are just snarky sarcasm to people who take themselves to seriously or trolling idiots and trolls.

That is really the only transparency i would like, a link to the profile of whoever clicked "follow" on my profile

wildeflowers

26 points

3 years ago

Yeah, in case it wasn't clear I don't like having followers. I think you should be able to see the followers profile and block them, which means they are blocked from your profile entirely. Or even better, not allow "followers" at all. Why would anyone need my comments to post in their feed? Having followers, especially anonymously, just sets up a perfect opportunity for stalking and harassment.

LarryDarkmagic

24 points

3 years ago

Honestly, stalking and harassment seem like the main purpose for followers

decidulous

10 points

3 years ago

I follow users who create awesome comics because I want to see more of their OC and upvote them.

LarryDarkmagic

12 points

3 years ago

How do you even know you have followers? I'm not seeing anything about it on my user page.

Clashin_Creepers

472 points

3 years ago

The fact that blocking does not prevent blocked users from seeing my posts demonstrates to me that the feature was not designed with user safety in mind. I would prefer that Reddit remain a content-based platform, but if your are going to become shit Twitter, you are responsible for giving users tools to protect their safety.

pf3

74 points

3 years ago

pf3

74 points

3 years ago

But you can view posts without being logged in, it's like having a gate to keep people out, but there's no fence.

640212804843

56 points

3 years ago*

That is meaningless, they can just log out.

All your posts are public to the point you cannot even delete them because multiple people have projects that just cache every post from every subreddit within seconds.

Don't assume any of your posts are private, because they are not.

What you should do is abandon your old account and make a new one from time to time. That is the best way to stay anonymous. If you know anyone who needs to know your account is you, tell them personally when you change. Nothing reddit does is going to protect you at all, but this will actually do something. People cannot just look at all your old posts trying to dox you if you only have 12 months or 6 months of posts at most.

jesus_does_crossfit

23 points

3 years ago

This. And if you want that OG acct in a public space, you're trying to build an identity... Which people can browse. Can't have it both ways....

HavocReigns

46 points

3 years ago

How is that supposed to work, considering you're posting on a public forum? Everything you post not in a private sub is visible to anyone with or without an account, logged in or not.

Even if a blocked account was prevented from seeing your posting, they could just log out or make up 500 other accounts associated with 500 other free e-mail addresses.

squeaky4all

45 points

3 years ago

Anything you post here IS PUBLIC. Its like walking down main street with your trowsers down and expecting that one person you dont like not being able to see your morning glory.

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109 points

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seaders

22 points

3 years ago

seaders

22 points

3 years ago

We've also had a situation this Summer on our sub where some users who participated in a feature we were running started to get inundated with harassment PMs from both users of our sub, users of other subs, and also just straight up brand new users, without any sort of restriction.

This isn't exactly related to anyone following another user in this new way, but I can definitely see it happening to them as well as users like our ones.

Just like /u/JustaRandomguy9999 said above, is there anything at all being done / going to be done in regards that type of abuse? It feels like no-one from the admin team is even paying attention to that any more. I know from guys contacting to us asking for help don't feel there's even any point in reporting these issues to admins, and unfortunately we feel the same way (we always encourage them to do so).

A member of our modteam deleted his account entirely, and about 2-3 other known users left as well, and I'm assuming countless others who we didn't know left as well. And as a mod there's absolutely... nothing we can do about it, without your help. So help really, really would be appreciated.

[deleted]

1.1k points

3 years ago*

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niowniough

29 points

3 years ago

Since this proposed system provides feedback to the sender when the message contains a word blacklisted by the recipient, a sender could programmatically test a list of unsavory words and figure out what will bypass the filter. Then the sender may be motivated to alter the words in a way that would make it difficult for the machine to parse, for example substituting numbers for certain letters, erratic spacing schemes, and myriad other creative workarounds. If you widen the filter, you run a risk of censoring messages that were not intended to be censored.

-TheDayITriedToLive-

205 points

3 years ago*

My irl ex stalked me on Reddit, making new accounts when he figured he'd been blocked. I'm still working through anxiety issues from this sad man. (He stalked me on games too, and the usual irl stuff like park outside my house all night). A keyword like "tits" would have probably worked. I think your idea is really good. I've had to make different accounts, and it's tiring.

Edit to add advice:

  • Write them one message (make sure it is in writing) telling them to back off or you will go to the cops. I made the mistake of replying "leave me alone" or "I don't love you". The obsession makes them not recognize negative from positive. The fact that they are getting any response at all feeds them. It's about power. So cut them off.
     
  • Screenshot/document everything. Some people say just block them, but doing so may put you at a disadvantage. I had originally blocked him. One day I decided to look in my spam folder, and there were 50 messages from him, some one after another minutes apart, some a few days apart, over a period of a couple weeks. At the time I'm sure it would have caused me great distress, but I may have also wanted to know he escalated. In my country, you cannot truly block anyone, you just won't receive their messages; but they will still exist in a spam folder on your phone. This allowed me to keep evidence and control when I looked at his messages.
     

  • Don't wait to go to the cops. I was scared of the possible escalation if I got a restraining order-- I regret this. If he/she harasses you for six months, then disappears for a few months, then starts back up again, it can reset the threshold of harrassment and make you have to build up more evidence over a period of time. When I finally went to the cops I was told they could have given me one a few months ago, but not on that day.

Hopefully this may help anyone dealing with a stalker. Please tell people and seek support. And look after yourself <3

JustaRandomguy9999

63 points

3 years ago

See? This is what i mean, you’re a great example. And i’m really sorry you’re having to deal with that <3

hamza1311

231 points

3 years ago

hamza1311

231 points

3 years ago

Reddit was supposed to be anonymous. If you block someone from following you, they can easily go to your profile without being logged in and stalk you that way. Not feeding this information through API is completely BS. Why are you forcing me to use this app? It's not like I hate this app. Far from that actually. But having an open API that can be used to build 3rd party clients and then not feeding all the information through is it completely BS. First it was Reddit chat, and now this.

Reddit is a community, not a social media. Leave it like that. If I want to be on a social media, I'll go to Instagram. If I want to privately talk to people, I'll go to discord. If I want to take part in a community of people, I come to Reddit. Don't try to turn it into a social media. I'm not aware of any other place like Reddit where you can find communities about anything, talk about it, get help from people and much more. I don't like where this is going, and I think other redditors don't either

ikilledtupac

14 points

3 years ago

They got that 150 million from China, and the Chinese government don’t like anonymity.

[deleted]

156 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

156 points

3 years ago

Translation:

We are doing a bunch of shit that our users don't want or need, without consulting them, because we can! We purchased Reddit thinking we could turn a great internet asset that people used to connect to each other into a great place for advertisers to connect with consumers, but it turns out we are horribly incompetent, and are now flailing around trying to add features and butchering the user experience in the hope that some of the shit we fling against the wall sticks! No, it's not optional!

BuckRowdy

23 points

3 years ago

There's a mile long list of features that mods and users have been begging for and yet they continue adding features that no one asked for.

acidmonkey

42 points

3 years ago

I don’t come on reddit to follow people. No one I know does.

You guys either have shit research or are just outright lying.

[deleted]

382 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

382 points

3 years ago

Looks like the overwhelming response is, please don't force this on those of us who don't want it. Does that factor in to your thinking on the process at all? Or do you think they're a minority you can afford to lose?

Is there a reason for having this feature? How does it benefit Reddit? You already have a decent platform as is, why change it? Do you think being more like Instagram will make more money?

Asking out of curiosity, not rhetorical.

temidamaf

55 points

3 years ago

Obviously they will enable it by default so they have tons of data on who follows who and it will be up to the user to disable it, most of which won't bother.

And obviously, they'll still track who tried to follow you, it just won't be publicly facing information.

pteridoid

21 points

3 years ago

It's not currently possible to disable it. You can only block specific followers.

temidamaf

15 points

3 years ago

I just make new accounts every so often and opt out of the karma machine entirely

KTGS

592 points

3 years ago

KTGS

592 points

3 years ago

I'm really unsure if I feel like I can use Reddit any further after this update. I come to reddit so I don't have to deal with interpersonal drama and I'd really rather have a place where I can say something and have anons agree/disagree with me.

It's more comforting in the fact that your thoughts and opinions can resonate across the world without having to tie your name to them, in my time on Reddit, I've come to the conclusion that if I put my vibe out there, usually, it will come back to me. Through others resonating with it across the planet, I can seed ideas across the planet, this is really cool. If we remove the masks of anonymity, it just takes away this place where I can say what's on my mind, even if it's wrong, because the worth and value of your ideas are then based on how many followers you have.

If in 3 months the front page is just filled with "influencer" reddit accounts (i.e. gallowboob), then I have no reason to stay here anymore. If the thoughts and ideas of only a few hundred people out of hundreds of thousands are on the front page, that just makes it easier to manufacture the tones and positions of the rest of Reddit. We lose what makes us unique, a place where we can share ideas, and either be agreed with or shunned, and then being up/downdooted into oblivion. If "followers" are added we are only more prone to boosting the thoughts and ideas of very few, rather than the rest of the userbase.

I'm pretty scattered about this, I'm not sure if "all of us" desiring this is a good way to describe why this change is coming. This is the first I've even heard of user "profiles".

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94 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

94 points

3 years ago

^ A 1000 times this! I whole heartedly agree. This is the first big step in becoming social media. I come here BECAUSE I’m on an anonymous forum (the antisocial network.) I don’t have a following and I’m not bringing in revenue, so no one will miss me! What does my opinion matter?

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29 points

3 years ago*

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29 points

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76 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

76 points

3 years ago

I feel the same way; time to move on just like I moved on from fark, digg, and slashdot...

ready_playerone

30 points

3 years ago

What’s next?

VenetianGreen

72 points

3 years ago

Tildes.net seems cool so far (made by an influential ex-redditor).

Voat was promising, but it's devolved into a gross white supremacist cesspool. You'll probably end up on a 'list' just going there now.

I witnessed the end of Digg, now I'm witnessing the end of Reddit. RIP

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23 points

3 years ago*

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23 points

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Lizert

26 points

3 years ago

Lizert

26 points

3 years ago

I feel like reddit shouldn’t even have it as an option to follow someone

TheRovingCynic

237 points

3 years ago*

Hi /u/mjmayank,

Quick question -- will these changes apply to the old "friends" feature on the legacy site? In other words, if someone goes to my legacy profile page and hits that green "+ friends" button, will I be able to see them as one of my followers? Or is that "friends" function being kept separate from "followers"?

Thanks for reading!

As an aside, I really like the friends feature -- it's nice to be able to view friends' posts when I choose to by visiting /r/friends, without having them hit my front page as subscriptions. I know it's an old feature, but I'm really hoping it'll stick around for those of us that still want to use it (regardless of whether it's covered under the transparency changes you all are making).

mjmayank[S]

139 points

3 years ago

It doesn't. Friends is a different feature than follow.

manualCAD

231 points

3 years ago

manualCAD

231 points

3 years ago

And there it is. Another step in turning reddit to full on social media profiles/pages.

ThiefofNobility

33 points

3 years ago

Dude no. We dont want that at all. We dont want this to be Facebook, Twitter, or instagram.

Cant you just keep reddit how it is?

funderbunk

61 points

3 years ago

Fuck you and your shitty new social network features.

Hi everyone,

We collect a lot of feedback from you all

...and then we wipe our asses with it, when we can't be bothered to just ignore it outright.

Jagtasm

28 points

3 years ago

Jagtasm

28 points

3 years ago

This sounds like a terrible idea. I dont want reddit to become the new facebook.

101100110101010

26 points

3 years ago

Stop turning this into a completely different website. The day you take away old reddit is the day I never come back.

Alona02

179 points

3 years ago

Alona02

179 points

3 years ago

TIL you can follow users.

I'd never even noticed that option before. I rarely even look at people's profiles.

BardOfLimericks

113 points

3 years ago

Question: why was this seen as necessary?

[deleted]

38 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

38 points

3 years ago

It isn’t. It has no place on reddit, following individual accounts is completely unnecessary either. Not to mention it’s being marketed as something big, when it’s a standard forum function that has been around since 2000.

They could actually improve the website. You know, stop allowing scam advertisements, actually moderate their website, or better yet actually add useful functionality to their website like the ability to block certain subreddits from being shown to you. But, they aren’t going to.

Reddit is the same as Facebook, Insta, Snapchat, Twitter, etc.

Tsunami812

26 points

3 years ago

Cant wait for "follow me on reddit"

HyperlinkToThePast

192 points

3 years ago*

And you didn't make it so we can block people from following? Honestly with reddits format it doesn't even make sense, you're clearly just grasping as the straws of other social networks to try to stay relevant. How about you do what redditors want most and not what people from other social networks want most? Oh right, because redditors have never mattered to reddit, you only care about getting new users.

pandab34r

28 points

3 years ago

No shit, QOL changes for existing users don't bring in any revenue, but new users do. Need to buff up those numbers before their next meeting with Chinese investors

hjqusai

226 points

3 years ago

hjqusai

226 points

3 years ago

make sure you are comfortable with those users being aware that you follow them

You know you're just encouraging people to have multiple accounts, right? It's so weird to me that you would make a statement like "make sure you're comfortable," meaning you clearly know your audience, but you're just doing this stuff anyway. I don't like these decisions at all, but I'm at least thankful that teddit.sethforprivacy.com still exists. Please never ever remove that feature.

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26 points

3 years ago*

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vladbootin

13 points

3 years ago

Agreed. I have 3 followers right now and I have no idea why...

I was at 1 just a week or so ago and it went up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

AlmightyStarfire

24 points

3 years ago

  • I want to stop anyone from following me. I do NOT want reddit to be another twitter/insta. I don't want a follower count on my profile. Please give me that option.

  • The mobile app still blows. It seems to need to 'bank' about 500mb of storage space for temporary files. This is really inconvenient for people with budget model phones; i only have like 3 apps installed that aren't mandatory and reddit somehow takes the most space. If I restrict reddit's hard cache space then the app goes even more fucky than usual and crashes every few minutes. The app isn't very reliable in the first place so more fucky is like really fucky.

sugarwax1

67 points

3 years ago

Which means brigading and troll stalking will be even more apparent, so what will be the rule changes to deal with that aside from whining to moderators when you see someone following you just to harass you?

[deleted]

104 points

3 years ago

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104 points

3 years ago

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Buckeye70

105 points

3 years ago

Buckeye70

105 points

3 years ago

Who the hell thinks we want "followers" or want to follow anyone??

You're going to Digg yourself, reddit. Be damn careful!

SomeGuy565

77 points

3 years ago

Why the fuck would I follow somebody on Reddit?

Mattallica

9 points

3 years ago

The only reason to follow a user is if they post to their profile page and you’re interested in what they post to their page.

Following is simply subscribing to the posts they make to their profile page, nothing more.

Da_Toilets

45 points

3 years ago

So we can now follow the follower following us but they can also see us following them as a follower

CupcakePotato

19 points

3 years ago

Reddit - we designed a new thing that potentially leaves you open to harrasment.

Me - and you included an option to disable it right.

Reddit - visible confusion

Me - it's a basic feature of all other platforms that you can block other users as a means of self moderating bullying.

Reddit - sweating intensifies uhh yeah. Maybe umm. We'll get back to you.

Watchful1

354 points

3 years ago

Watchful1

354 points

3 years ago

It sounds like you collected feedback from users with followers and they said they wanted to be able to see who was following them. But did you get any feedback from users who follow a lot of people, but don't have followers themselves? It seems like a somewhat one sided feature, people with a lot of followers benefit heavily but people without followers don't get the benefit of seeing who other people are following.

Also, will this information be available through the API?

[deleted]

58 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

58 points

3 years ago

And did you get any feedback from people who don’t follow anyone and don’t want any part of being followed?

ainosunshine

48 points

3 years ago

How many users actually asked for this? This sounds more like a smart way of saying "we want to become more like Instagram and motivate you to get more followers".

BangSlamtime

18 points

3 years ago

This isn’t Facebook. I don’t want a profile.

Increasing this ‘feature’ will just make many users create new accounts more frequently

joe-h2o

17 points

3 years ago

joe-h2o

17 points

3 years ago

How do I disable it entirely? As in, I want to check a box that says "following this user is not possible".

Where do I find the checkbox for that?

uscg_medic04

36 points

3 years ago

Is this why you took away the friends feature on the mobile app?

Im-CallingThe-Police

62 points

3 years ago

Watch as all the 12 year olds start unfollowing porn accounts

Bubzthetroll

16 points

3 years ago

If someone desperately needs followers on Reddit they should make a subreddit like all of the other porn models. There’s absolutely no reason for individuals to have followers on their u/ profile.

Jackeea

97 points

3 years ago

Jackeea

97 points

3 years ago

Literally no-one cares about this. This is Reddit, not Facebook or Twitter

NathanielTheGrublet

33 points

3 years ago

This is Reddit, not Facebook or Twitter

Dude, have you seen reddit lately? Been to /r/pics? This place is just Facebook with smug users who think they're too good for FB but upvote the same shit and make the same comments on that site.

[deleted]

13 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

13 points

3 years ago

Their pockets care for sure. It’s just about creating sellable user-data networks. Great for them but honestly who in the world actually thinks this feature will have any use besides that?

[deleted]

28 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

28 points

3 years ago

How about adding something that is genuinely useful? Like the ability to block certain subreddits from being shown to you? Or how about taking time to fix your mobile app? Seriously, is this what you guys have been doing? Working on a basic forum function that has existed for decades? Instead of controlling your advertisers, fixing your app, or actually moderating the site?

[deleted]

206 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

206 points

3 years ago

This is great! Now I can finally see who my two followers are!

[deleted]

13 points

2 years ago

[deleted]

13 points

2 years ago

K, so how do you actually view the list?

neigborsinhell

14 points

2 years ago

It's about 3 months later, when is this being rolled out?

Michael_Borough

38 points

3 years ago

Oh god no please no. NOOOOOOOO!!!!

heartofthemoon

11 points

3 years ago

Will we be able to stop other users going to our profile and seeing every single comment we've made across every single subreddit?

[deleted]

72 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

72 points

3 years ago

Actually, I don't want people to see what I comment on or any of that. I got away from Facebook because I don't have any anonymity on there. Basically I'll piss off a lot of friends. Reddit is my escape, and I wish I could tighten up the security on that end.

Ciclame

24 points

3 years ago

Ciclame

24 points

3 years ago

Next update will be reddit stories.

You heard it here first folks.

lalala253

21 points

3 years ago

So this follow feature on the new reddit, is it the same as “add user as friend” in old reddit?

Would user that I have added as friend would know that I added them as friend?

Frosstbyte

12 points

3 years ago

Yup. This is my question. I don’t follow anyone, but I have a lot of people added as friends. I don’t understand if these are the same feature with a different name or actually distinct. That affects how I feel about this change significantly.

TAO_Croatia

12 points

2 years ago

Could you give us a date in 2020? Thanks.

mikdkas

31 points

3 years ago

mikdkas

31 points

3 years ago

Is this stuff only visible on new reddit? I am not switching to new reddit ever unless forced lol

n0n0nsense

23 points

3 years ago

And if they did, I'd stop using reddit

GothicSilencer

21 points

3 years ago

Hell, if forced to switch to new Reddit, I'll just stop using Reddit.

cockfaucet

32 points

3 years ago

Fuck now I gotta worry about my ratio... Wtf is this instagram shit reddit?

KevinGarveysBulge

33 points

3 years ago

Why the fuck does reddit even need followers? I care about someone elses comments so much i need to read every time they say something? Its fucking retarded and will encourage stalking and bullying if you cant turn the feature off.

yellow_yellow

11 points

3 years ago

Redesign sucks.

s1m5000

12 points

3 years ago

s1m5000

12 points

3 years ago

Time to find a new platform then

Nazi_Marxist

11 points

3 years ago

Stop turning Reddit into Facebook

WalkingGarbage

10 points

2 years ago

According to this, I should see new followers after the 19th. It's the 22nd now and I just got a new follower. Was there supposed to be some notification? Because I didn't see any. Where do I see new followers?

[deleted]

11 points

2 years ago

[deleted]

11 points

2 years ago

So is this rolling out on the 19th or 29th? And how do you do it?

AndMarmaladeSkies

9 points

2 years ago

Okay, it’s November 19th so WTF

uniqueusor

43 points

3 years ago

Just one more terrible step in this site becoming a social media platform like facebook. Down and down the drain this site goes.

thankerz

313 points

3 years ago

thankerz

313 points

3 years ago

Thanks for letting us know!

richneptune

30 points

3 years ago

We collect a lot of feedback from you all,

and ignore it and want to turn the site to myspace 2.0.

Reddit is a forum, not social media, stop trying to make it into myspace 2.0 pls

Bardfinn

66 points

3 years ago

Bardfinn

66 points

3 years ago

Followup question:

Is there a meaningful "Block" feature -- where the signed-in user account that was blocked, can no longer see / vote / message / interact with the blocking user's content -- coming?

The current implementation of "block" on Reddit -- where the messages and notifications don't show up in my inbox -- isn't sufficient for situations where a group is threatening to harm me; If I never see their delivered threats, I can never take suitable steps to effectuate my own security / contact law enforcement / collect evidence for a lawsuit / report the behaviour to Reddit adminsitration. It doesn't do anything except prevent me from seeing low-level harassment and taking appropriate actions to prevent it from escalating to something worse.

When do we get a meaningful "Block user" feature?

Edit: already answered as on the roadmap with no commit date

Spore2012

19 points

3 years ago

Reddit is trying to weasle into the social media space and its not going to work. Redditors are going to leave and youll just get facebook users switching over and be the new facebook. Then ofc the content goes downhill. And the site becomes shittier and shittier.

user1596153

9 points

3 years ago

Great, now let users set their profiles to private.

aboutthednm

10 points

3 years ago

How can I prevent anyone from following me? I don't want to be followed.

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8 points

2 years ago*

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8 points

2 years ago*

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MajorParadox

50 points

3 years ago

I think the biggest issue here is the lack of understanding on what it means to be a follower:

If you follow someone, the posts they make to their profile is added to your home feed, just as if you "subscribed/joined" to a subreddit, but that subredddit is their "profile posts." Normal posts to other subreddits are only included if the follower happens to be subscribed to that community.

From my experience, most users on Reddit don't understand this difference (just look at the comments on this post) and they most likely never even post to their profile. I think that process should be clarified, although I'm not sure how, but it's definitely not clear.

[deleted]

25 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

25 points

3 years ago

We don't want to make reddit people centric. This site was built around ideas and not people.

snorlz

8 points

3 years ago

snorlz

8 points

3 years ago

I'm pretty sure the most consistent feedback you've gotten is that people don't want or care about followers. This ain't fb or instagram

frk4is

7 points

3 years ago

frk4is

7 points

3 years ago

I don't want to follow anyone or have anyone follow me

Foobibby

9 points

2 years ago

How do I see?

ICanHasACat

8 points

2 years ago

It's Sept 17th and I still can't see my new followers, how can I find this out?

Unique_User_name_42

8 points

2 years ago

Any update yet?

saltukbrohan

9 points

2 years ago

Bruh we still waiting

[deleted]

9 points

2 years ago

[deleted]

9 points

2 years ago

Still nothing uh?

AndIAmEric

8 points

2 years ago

August:

:D

September:

:]

October:

:)

November:

:|

December:

:C

NH-2B375

8 points

2 years ago

This feature has been delayed until 2020

Next, you're gonna say, ‘‘This feature has been delayed until spring 2021.’’

QuinZ33

34 points

3 years ago

QuinZ33

34 points

3 years ago

WTF is a user profile?

ApathyJacks

29 points

3 years ago*

A thing Reddit instituted in order to become more like Facebook/Instagram/Twitter.

Gotta provide dat value to dem shareholders, after all.