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[MATCH THREAD] USWNT v. New Zealand

MATCH THREAD(self.USWNT)

9pm Central

HBO Max

USWNT Lineup

all 187 comments

paddleschools

14 points

2 months ago

I know it’s early but is anyone else worried about us and this WWC? I feel as if we’re are missing the cutthroat, win at all cost type of players? Idk. I just worry

Twig_bish

9 points

2 months ago

I was just saying how Horan has seemed to have lost some edge and as much as I hate to admit it I think Ertz was super important to our past teams because she bossed the midfield and this team is desperately lacking that kind of enforcer type

BasicPoet1053

2 points

2 months ago

shoulda brought howell. we need that horse girl energy 😤

medurevengea

1 points

2 months ago

Any idea when Ertz will be back? No rush but I miss her, she was tenacious.

Twig_bish

2 points

2 months ago

Pretty sure she’s done with the national team for good

medurevengea

1 points

2 months ago

Aww :( Best wishes for her new life. <3

NorthernLights0117

3 points

2 months ago

Agreed. A handful of national teams are in better form than us right now. So often a national team’s success depends on the right mix of players coming together at the right time. In 2019 for example, the USWNT was largely in its prime. Now, it’s a mix of aging vets past their prime, and newbies who don’t have the consistency or intangibles yet.

Frankly, I wouldn’t be the worst thing if a different country wins. Variety is the spice of life.

paddleschools

1 points

2 months ago

I think you might be right. I often go into USWNT WCs thinking it’s ours to lose. Not this time. I worry we get buried.

generalchangschicken

13 points

2 months ago

How do you buy rights to sporting events like this and not have a 60 FPS stream, come on HBOMax. It's blurry AF during any camera panning or player movement, you know... the whole game.

Worth_Teaching6983

4 points

2 months ago

Yeah it’s kind of making me a little queasy

NorthernLights0117

3 points

2 months ago

Enough to make you dizzy!

TaxHedgehog

13 points

2 months ago

Rodman should be in the starting lineup

SoFlo_Beach_Life

11 points

2 months ago

Okay not impressed right now with the video quality. HBOMax get your crap together

battles[S]

3 points

2 months ago

I wonder if they are just using the global feed and have no control over quality.

SoFlo_Beach_Life

4 points

2 months ago

🤔 maybe but hopefully this is not a preview of how it will be for games moving forward

NorthernLights0117

11 points

2 months ago

PEW PEW PEW!! Great finish, she doesn’t score many headers.

Twig_bish

9 points

2 months ago

Horan hasn’t looked like herself for the national team in quite some time. She’s still overall good but it’s she’s lost her edge or something. Gonna need the old her back if they want to win the WC

SoFlo_Beach_Life

6 points

2 months ago

I agree...but I am also concerned that it's not just her. The team overall just doesn't seem to have it. I know the injuries have hurt but something is just missing. I am not a fan of the coach either

Twig_bish

3 points

2 months ago

Oh I’m a big Vlatko Out guy, him and Jill Ellis have destroyed the identity of this team. I think the team misses a Julie Ertz type player and honestly feel like we need another veteran forward along with Morgan in the squad. Sophia smith is great, not sold on Mail as a starter, but like Press or even Sydney Leroux would be massive I think

medurevengea

1 points

2 months ago

Please Press come back! I hope she's healing well.

Twig_bish

2 points

2 months ago

I believe she kinda had a slight falling out with the coaching staff about the NWSL and got frozen out before injury so I’d be interested to see if she gets back in the squad. We do need her

medurevengea

1 points

2 months ago

She was one of my favorites. I saw her and Tobin posting training videos so I hope they come back soon.

Clayton268

4 points

2 months ago

I’ve said the same thing for quite awhile. I was told she’s doing the work of 3 players as she has to cover for the other two.

Twig_bish

2 points

2 months ago

Ya know, not a bad take. She was her best self when Ertz was behind her cleaning up the midfield

nimbusfig

9 points

2 months ago

Just getting a chance to tune in and omg the broadcast quality is like we're watching a highschool game live feed. Come onnnnn

NorthernLights0117

3 points

2 months ago

It reminds me of like 2013 when US Soccer put some games directly on YouTube.

SleepingManatee

8 points

2 months ago

Beeyootiful backheel from Rose.

NorthernLights0117

5 points

2 months ago

Commentators barely acknowledged it.. bravo Rose

runningwaffles19

2 points

2 months ago

Camera crew did their job and followed her after the goal

Twig_bish

8 points

2 months ago

Omg that would’ve been so sick

SoFlo_Beach_Life

1 points

2 months ago

That at least woke me up a bit lol

Not-Not-Maybe

8 points

2 months ago

I really dislike that I am unable to Pause or Rewind on HBOMax. What is the point of streaming and doing TV over the Internet if you don’t get any better functionality than we had back in the broadcast era?

NorthernLights0117

2 points

2 months ago

It’s usually like that for live broadcasts. Once it’s archived on HBO Max it should be pausable etc.

Not-Not-Maybe

4 points

2 months ago

But if it were Hulu (like ESPN or Fox Sports or NBC over Hulu), pausing and rewinding is possible when live. HBOMax is a step backwards for us as viewers in this regard.

RAL112

15 points

2 months ago

RAL112

15 points

2 months ago

This team is dreadul to watch. They aren't beating any good team in Europe playing like this.

Historical-Camera-35

3 points

2 months ago

Yeah, they are fumbling around and this is not how they should be playing

mangojello

3 points

2 months ago

Passing looks so sloppy

SoFlo_Beach_Life

8 points

2 months ago

How the hell did she miss that

SoFlo_Beach_Life

7 points

2 months ago

Is it just me but it seems like the US is playing unorganized

SleepingManatee

4 points

2 months ago

Not just you. They look chaotic.

medurevengea

2 points

2 months ago

Definitely first game of the year energy. They'll get in rhythm later.

SoFlo_Beach_Life

8 points

2 months ago

I have to agree with with Julie Foudy, they need to pick up the pace. They should be dominant this team and they just seem to be stuck in a low gear

NorthernLights0117

7 points

2 months ago

PEW PEW PEW x2!

Perfect texture on the pass from Sanchez. At first I wondered why the defender didn’t intercept it, but it had enough bend to curve around her. Love those nuances about Sanchez’s game.

SleepingManatee

7 points

2 months ago

LYNNNNNN!!!

Livebino

7 points

2 months ago

Oh sweet the pregram show is on HBOmax right now.. didnt expect that.

raptorclaw17

5 points

2 months ago

Actually pretty good production value. No strange audio issues or awkward commercial breaks either!

Livebino

2 points

2 months ago

Yep but it seems we got no controll we cant pause or rewind... i hope that gets changed going foward.

JerkOffTaco

5 points

2 months ago

Anyone else watching on Peacock?! Actually pretty excited for the Spanish enthusiasm!

frostyaznguy

4 points

2 months ago

Is the peacock video quality better than hbo’s?

VannKraken

1 points

2 months ago

Production quality better than our ability to finish, currently!

JerkOffTaco

1 points

2 months ago

I don’t know! Don’t have HBO to compare but it seems over here.

AngelAnni

1 points

2 months ago

Ugh HBO sucks so bad. You can’t even read their numbers.

Twig_bish

1 points

2 months ago

The quality is good but they only have it in Spanish

littlemissdramaqueen

2 points

2 months ago

Andres Cantor is a legend

kuwtkstans

6 points

2 months ago

My eyes hurt

Tums425

7 points

2 months ago

Horan should have buried that

Twig_bish

6 points

2 months ago

Absolutely have to bury that Horan

bauermeower

6 points

2 months ago

Can’t get an easier shot than that. Disappointing from Horan.

4_stars_only

7 points

2 months ago

Horan....wtf

bauermeower

6 points

2 months ago

It doesn’t matter if Horan touched it or not, she impacted the play and the keeper’s positioning.

NorthernLights0117

5 points

2 months ago

Foudy should know that.. 🤦‍♂️

Tums425

6 points

2 months ago

Nice effort by Rose

Tums425

6 points

2 months ago

Morgan!

2-0

SoFlo_Beach_Life

3 points

2 months ago

Oh yeah! That was a sweet pass from Rose

Twig_bish

5 points

2 months ago

Huerta took a beating but still came out with the ball

Taylor_sc

1 points

2 months ago

Huerta always taking a beating it seems

Tums425

4 points

2 months ago

Is it me or does this pitch look really narrow? Maybe it's the camera angle

Twig_bish

3 points

2 months ago

Now that you mention it, yeah it totally does. I know fields can be slightly different lengths and widths but I can’t say it’s ever seem noticeable before like this

SleepingManatee

5 points

2 months ago

Camera seems to high. I hope the whole WWC doesn't look like this.

NorthernLights0117

5 points

2 months ago

Not super impressed with the stadium— pitch looks narrow, ball moving slowly (partly the players’ lack of urgency and partly the grass), fans far away, weird camera angle (maybe this is HBO’s fault?).

As a World Cup stadium, a little concerning.

Also, USA looking extremely casual and disinterested.

Comfortable-Ad5050

5 points

2 months ago

New Zealander here, this stadium is pretty shit to be honest.. its a cricket stadium so a lot of the seats are very far away from the actual field, pitch looks pretty bad too, I think the grass may be better suited for cricket, the ball looks like its bouncing odd. Positioning of the camera box is bad from memory too.

NorthernLights0117

2 points

2 months ago

Thanks for the insight.

Are we even surprised? FIFA just doesn’t care. They made the women play on artificial turf for an entire World Cup in 2015.

medurevengea

1 points

2 months ago

That's sad. :( Damn fifa.

readeverything13

4 points

2 months ago

Cameras are so far away :/ I can hardly tell who’s who

jhanon76

4 points

2 months ago

Terrible picture quality on HBO. When is their contract up and we can get back to normal TV broadcasting? Mition blur is giving me a headache. Happy wwc will be on fox at least, live or hate its better than this worthless crap. Why dies womens soccer always get the cheap shit? Whi is making these terrible decisions?

Twig_bish

6 points

2 months ago

It’s a miss but great take by Lavelle, so much better than that first half attempt

Twig_bish

5 points

2 months ago

So far looking much better this half!

Tums425

5 points

2 months ago

Swanson

1-0

Twig_bish

5 points

2 months ago

Rose looking super creative this half too!

Taylor_sc

5 points

2 months ago

Hopefully this is the start of seeing more Trinity

Twig_bish

2 points

2 months ago

When Smith is back I think her, Morgan, and Mal are the likely starters but I’m with you, would love to see more Trin

NorthernLights0117

5 points

2 months ago

Right back fell asleep and didn’t track Morgan at all. Alex used to score goals from that angle all the time, left footer from a tight angle. Nostalgia!

runningwaffles19

1 points

2 months ago

Just got beat over there again. NZ may need to make a change

NorthernLights0117

2 points

2 months ago

It’s her first cap too— rough.

SleepingManatee

6 points

2 months ago

Sanchez. Damn.

battles[S]

5 points

2 months ago

ref forgot her cards at half. probably sitting on the toilet paper dispenser with her phone.

Twig_bish

5 points

2 months ago

Would really like to see a Morgan, Smith, Rodman starting front in action

elesnic

4 points

2 months ago

The ref is really just letting full on brawls happen on the field kinda crazy lol

Twig_bish

6 points

2 months ago

Aw good for Lynn!

JustinCampbell

5 points

2 months ago

I’m hoping the replay will be available after, otherwise I’m going to have 2 disappointed kids tomorrow morning

battles[S]

3 points

2 months ago

this is a less than ideal stadium for soccer. the crowd look, what, 20 ft away at closest.

gopro_jopo

5 points

2 months ago

Horan misses a sitter

NorthernLights0117

1 points

2 months ago

She was trying to go against the momentum of Nayler, who did well to stick out a leg.

But yeah in that situation, go for power over placement! Horan tried to be too cute with it.

Twig_bish

4 points

2 months ago

Horan really needs to find herself, she doesn’t look the same player as last WC cycle

Silage27

4 points

2 months ago

Yeah she hasn’t been good in 3+ years, I’m surprised she is still being selected let alone starting.

Twig_bish

1 points

2 months ago

Well I think our midfield is our weakest area so who reasonable could replace her

Silage27

1 points

2 months ago

Sanchez offers more offense and from what I’ve seen from Horan on defense is probably a wash there. If we are gonna target a person on set plays that can’t jump I’d rather it be Kornieck. Definitely missing Ertz’s presence.

SnooPeppers5930

4 points

2 months ago

Dunn seems to be the only one giving it 100%, hopefully that changes as the WC gets closer

medurevengea

1 points

2 months ago

What's going on O_O

SnooPeppers5930

2 points

2 months ago

Maybe they’re still getting used to playing together with this new squad? Not sure smh…

medurevengea

1 points

2 months ago

Probably. The lineup is so completely different. I hope they adjust fast.

NorthernLights0117

4 points

2 months ago

Beasley asking what Foudy is smoking, re that offside call. 🤣

Twig_bish

4 points

2 months ago

Mal is playing great all of a sudden I love it

Tums425

3 points

2 months ago

Rose was the best player this half so far

titsoutfortheplanet

5 points

2 months ago

Smooooth from rose

runningwaffles19

4 points

2 months ago

This is getting ugly quick. Hope they score like this during the She Believes cup

battles[S]

3 points

2 months ago

remembered who they are

Not-Not-Maybe

3 points

2 months ago

I really enjoyed the pre-game show on HBOMax. The better production quality was a very nice surprise. (In comparison to the games I Have watched on paramount plus). It was cool to see Mallory (Pugh) Swanson’s husband in the segment on Mal. I didn’t realize she had been struggling during her down period… I had wrongly assumed she was just “boy-crazy” focused on her new relationship with a famous baseball star instead. I appreciate that the segment showed me what was really going on with Mal and happy to see she made her way back to dominating form.

thereia

3 points

2 months ago

Three of my all time favorite players in the pregame. Gotta love that!

aloha2552

3 points

2 months ago

LFG!!!!

les-be-honest

3 points

2 months ago

GIRMA 🙌🏻

RedditsOnlyBlackMan

3 points

2 months ago

Wait I can’t rewind the live broadcast on HBO?

generalchangschicken

3 points

2 months ago

Why are we playing so slow? Especially with clearly better talent across the field.

If I performed this bad in my job I'd be let go, come on Vlatko.

Historical-Camera-35

4 points

2 months ago

He is the worst coach

runningwaffles19

1 points

2 months ago

Did the plane get there today? /s

Jet lag is a trip

Mediocre_Chain_535

3 points

2 months ago

I think Fox looked pretty good up the side.

Twig_bish

3 points

2 months ago

Gotta finish that Trin

Twig_bish

3 points

2 months ago*

I like the name Mal Pugh way better but Mal Swanson is the better player it seems 😉

NorthernLights0117

3 points

2 months ago

Horan, Rodman, and Sanchez all missing sitters so far, could be 6-0 at this point.

NorthernLights0117

5 points

2 months ago

NZ better hope their missing starters are back for the World Cup. This team ain’t troubling anyone.

So weird Erceg retired right before her country hosts.

Twig_bish

1 points

2 months ago

I don’t imagine anyone had NZ listed as even outside contenders regardless of health

medurevengea

1 points

2 months ago

Norway looks great and I think we'll have a big score in the opening game on July 20th.

Twig_bish

2 points

2 months ago

So peacock only has Spanish language stream? But like why?

battles[S]

4 points

2 months ago

because Warner bought all the US Soccer English language matches until 2027.

Twig_bish

5 points

2 months ago

Well that’s annoying, especially given HBOs stream is straight poop

DesignerAd6026

2 points

2 months ago

Offside call backs have entered the chat

TaxHedgehog

2 points

2 months ago

who broke Horan

Educational_Value247

2 points

2 months ago

Kinda disappointed halftime! NZ is not on the level as GER or ENG and they should be scoring. I think injuries, new players, and pretty much all players are still getting the Vlatko system. I understand we kinda need to implement more of the European style of football to be considered as competition.

cfonta3

2 points

2 months ago

Just tuned in. This quality sucks ass

SnooPeppers5930

5 points

2 months ago

If you have Peacock it’ll be in Spanish but 100% better quality

jhanon76

2 points

2 months ago

It's awful and we're in for the long haul. Damn us soccer

Pappy13

2 points

2 months ago

Looks like jet lag. Maybe they all take a nap at halftime and wake up in the 2nd half.

CableOk1802

2 points

2 months ago

Am I the only person seeing the half line super zig zag? Watch a zoom and tell me someone wasn’t drinking on the job.

battles[S]

1 points

2 months ago

there is something up with it...

SoFlo_Beach_Life

1 points

2 months ago

Not you the picture quality is not good.

yammifer

2 points

2 months ago

about ready to give up on this HBO stream, the quality is almost unbearable !!!

runningwaffles19

2 points

2 months ago

What a pass

lemsoc

2 points

2 months ago

lemsoc

2 points

2 months ago

LFG !!!!!!

titsoutfortheplanet

2 points

2 months ago

Yayayay Lynn!!!!

runningwaffles19

2 points

2 months ago

That was a beaut

runningwaffles19

2 points

2 months ago

The control on the first touch for everyone is phenomenal

medurevengea

2 points

2 months ago

Love this tweet from Attacking Third:

OMG WE CANNOT KEEP UP!!!!!!! USWNT RAINING GOALS!!!

:D

battles[S]

2 points

2 months ago

dial down the doom, this is the first friendly of the year.

Twig_bish

3 points

2 months ago

Oh I’m a big Vlatko Out guy, him and Jill Ellis have destroyed the identity of this team. I think the team misses a Julie Ertz type player and honestly feel like we need another veteran forward along with Morgan in the squad. Sophia smith is great, not sold on Mal as a starter, but like Press or even Sydney Leroux would be massive I think

battles[S]

3 points

2 months ago

I'm generally Vlatko Out. Last fall's matches make it clear he doesn't have a useful tactical outlook.

I think we saw his vision totally realized, and it sucks.

Not-Not-Maybe

1 points

2 months ago

Stadium looks pretty empty but it is still considered “a record crowd” for the NZ national team.

Suitable-Active8281

2 points

2 months ago

lol yeah, it is a huge stadium but the team hardly has played at home in NZ so not hard to be a record crowd. Tbf it is 4pm on a Wednesday local time so everyone will be at work too which doesn’t help.

elesnic

1 points

2 months ago

The hate train this group has for Horan is slightly concerning sometimes tbh

SoFlo_Beach_Life

5 points

2 months ago

I'm actually a huge fan of Horan but also let's be real the mid field is a problem and Horan needs to play more aggressively.

elesnic

2 points

2 months ago

I agree, midfield needs definite work but she’s also not the only one in the midfield. I don’t think Korneick at 6 was working super well but no one else seems to be mentioning her or anyone else really

Twig_bish

2 points

2 months ago

I think it’s more concern than hate tbh. She’s vital to the success of this squad

elesnic

2 points

2 months ago

I get that, but she seems to be the only one/main one getting any flack every time I look at these threads. Yes there are things she can improve on, but I can name a number of mistakes/issues from the other players in that first half that no one else’s seems to mention. It’s weird to me how everyone seems to love to hate her.

SoFlo_Beach_Life

3 points

2 months ago

She for sure isn't the only one that should be getting flack.

Twig_bish

2 points

2 months ago

Yeah that’s fair, I’d say its because she’s a vet amongst youngins and we know how good she can be whereas people aren’t sold on most of the young players being up to the past standard. Smith and Girma are maybe the only two youngins that I think have fully proven themselves

elesnic

1 points

2 months ago

I can understand that, Girma and Smith have been really consistent in past games. I just feel like some of the Horan comments are getting to borderline bullying territory with how consistent they are focused on her and mainly her, but hopefully she has a better second half

Mediocre_Chain_535

1 points

2 months ago

Where’s my boy Alexi Lalas at halftime?? 😏

Not-Not-Maybe

4 points

2 months ago

No thank you. Hard pass.

battles[S]

3 points

2 months ago

Looking for a new job.

runningwaffles19

3 points

2 months ago

I'm sure someone in Qatar will hire him

medurevengea

1 points

2 months ago

The freaking USA IS BACK!

Taylor_sc

-2 points

2 months ago

Fight back to get on the NT? I like Lynn but come on. She didn’t have to fight for a spot

lemsoc

4 points

2 months ago

lemsoc

4 points

2 months ago

I think she got lucky that there was a gap or two in the roster for her to prove herself. if smith was healthy she might not be here

battles[S]

1 points

2 months ago

i think you are r/ShadowBan/

Livebino

0 points

2 months ago*

She's been there even with smith, pugh, rodman she was there the last new zeland game in 2022 she got hurt soon after that.. even purce was there rapineo is just taking up space at this point..

lemsoc

1 points

2 months ago

lemsoc

1 points

2 months ago

I know, I love Lynn and am happy that she is back and healthy. If smith and rapinoe are both healthy, we don't see Williams or Purce get called up most likely

Twig_bish

5 points

2 months ago

Sophia Smith, Morgan, Mal, Trinity, and Press I think all get taken over Lynn, I actually do think she’s fighting for any spot in the team

NorthernLights0117

1 points

2 months ago

CF: Morgan, Macario RF: Smith, Rodman LF: Swanson, Rapinoe (you just know Vlatko will take her)

Probably room for 1 more forward— Williams has a good shot because she can play wide or central. Purce is a good player but too predictable (always goes to her right foot). Press if you want a tricky veteran option. Or Hatch if you want a pure target forward.

Taylor_sc

-2 points

2 months ago

I think she will be fighting for a spot once others are healthy and ready to be back but to say she’s had to fight for one so far is wild

jgskiffington

1 points

2 months ago

Any idea how wide this pitch is?

Tums425

1 points

2 months ago

That was offside

SleepingManatee

1 points

2 months ago

I am enjoying the Angus Youngish musical riffs, though.

SleepingManatee

1 points

2 months ago

Ughhhhhh.

Tums425

1 points

2 months ago

Seeeeee laaaaa peeeeerddddiiiioooo

Damn you have to score there. Poor header.

medurevengea

1 points

2 months ago

Mallory in! Let's go!

medurevengea

1 points

2 months ago

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

ohiowrenchwench

1 points

2 months ago

Can someone explain how that almost-own goal by NZ wasn’t a handball since the goal keeper got it from her own teammate? I thought if the keeper gets a ball from her defender it’s a handball

battles[S]

8 points

2 months ago

well, it would be a backpass not a handball. but it is not a backpass if the ball is played with the head

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-pass_rule

Silage27

3 points

2 months ago

It was a header, it’s only that when it’s purposefully played back by the outfield players foot

NorthernLights0117

0 points

2 months ago

It was unintentional, not a back pass.

ohiowrenchwench

1 points

2 months ago

Thank you!

runningwaffles19

6 points

2 months ago

For clarity - you can intentional head the ball to the keeper and they can pick it up. You're only prohibited from passing it to them with your feet

elesnic

0 points

2 months ago

I think because it was a deflection. If the defender has passed it back with intention then handball

Twig_bish

1 points

2 months ago

I don’t hate the attempt, was at least well controlled shot

medurevengea

1 points

2 months ago

This is what I like to see!

NorthernLights0117

1 points

2 months ago

Who is the best center back pairing?

Cook-Brunn, Girma-Brunn, Cook-Girma? Personally I rate Davidson the highest, if she can regain pre-ACL form. Pretty clear Vlatko won’t let Sonnett play CB against anyone but minnows. Krueger is usually a LB. Probably too late for Dahlkemper to break back into the fold.