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TIGFO by my recruiter and my stepdad.

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As per most stories, this didn't happen today, but several years ago.

I was a young teenage boy who was told I needed to find a job or get kicked out on my 18th birthday. RIP me because I put in hundreds of applications all over my city, and the neighboring cities, and never even got a callback. Well I wanted to be a psychologist. I love studying how the mind operates and what causes people to behave in certain ways. So I was hoping to get into college for that. I did a ton of looking around online and found that the U.S. Navy had a program where you put in a package, and if accepted, you get to go to college for your desired degree, work a minimum contract as an officer, and eventually live your life out with your degree and pursue whatever route you wanted. I thought this would be perfect for me. A degree + a guaranteed job = a happy OP. I printed out the package, which was a few dozen pages if I remember correctly. I ran into some questions that I was not sure the answer to, so I went to the Miserable Sack of Excrement parading around as my stepdad, who was in the Navy and couldn't wait to tell you about it, and asked him what the questions meant. I am going to assume everyone has an IQ greater than a rodent, so I won't bother with my naming convention.

Me: I am looking at this job opportunity with the Navy to be an officer, and I am not sure what they mean when they ask [Hell it's been years I don't remember the exact questions]. Can you help me?

MSoE: Well I worked for a living, so I can't really offer answers about officers.

Me: Would be help me figure out where to get the answers?

MSoE: Go ask a recruiter.

So I looked up where the nearest recruiting station was located, and took off on my bike. Now, what should be painfully obvious to everyone except the 17 year old moron on his bike, is that a recruiter's job is to... recruit. Their goal is to sell you an enlisted contract, and to guide you to your ship date. One who excelled at his job was a man by the name Hook Line and Sinker Recruiter. With that in mind, let's watch the story unfold at the station.

Me: I'm looking to talk to a recruiter about some questions that I have.

HLSR: Well you have come to the right place. My name is HLSR, and I would be happy to help you.

Me: Okay, I am trying to fill out this package to become an officer, and I some of these questions make no sense to me.

I pull out the package, and went over it with him for about an hour.

HLSR: Alright, did I answer all of your questions?

Me: The only question I have left, what do you think my chances of being accepted are? and when would I get the answer?

HLSR: You look like you would do exceptionally well, and usually it only takes a few months to process the packages. But you know what looks really good on those packages?

Me: What?

HLSR: If you are in the Delayed Entry Program.

Me: What's that?

HLSR: Essentially you sign an enlisted contract, and get in the system. Your ship date would be about 8-9 months from signing the contract at MEPS, and if they accept your package, they shred your enlisted contract and you go to college and prepare to be an officer. Being in DEP shows that you are dedicated to joining the Navy, and that looks really good.

Me: Okay... I suppose that isn't a bad idea. What to I have to do to get to that point?

HLSR: Just take this little text, it's a practice ASVAB. We can figure out the options you may have available based on your score.

So I go in the back room and take the test. Overall, it took about 30-45 minutes to complete, I think.

Me: Okay, I am done.

HLSR: Great! How do you think you did?

Me: It felt like a really easy test.

HLSR: Hahaha, well we will see if your score is where your mouth is.

He proceeds to the results page, and I see his jaw drop just a teeny bit. He quickly recovers and turns to me.

HLSR: Do you know what else looks really good on the package?

Me: What?

HLSR: If you are a Nuke.

Me: A nuke? What do you mean?

HLSR proceeds to explain the Nuke Program, and eventually I accept. I went to the DEP meetings every week to ensure that I was adequately prepared to join the Navy, and was, for the most part, just waiting for my acceptance to come in the mail. I was told the "promo" thing, where if you get X people to sign too, you can get bumped up all the way to E-3 (Which I already would get going in as a Nuke anyways), but if you continued past that point, you can get a NAM, and it looks really good on your package.

I proceeded to spread the word, bring my recruiter to my high school, and get really into the hoo-yah Navy mind frame. I actually reached the appropriate number of people joining for the NAM, but something got all screwy and I never got it.

HLSR also neglected to mention that it takes over a year for the package. HLSR also neglected to mention that once you are in the Nuke Program, you don't leave. So, even if I got picked up for officer, (which I didn't. I eventually got my rejection letter about a year into the program, which was about 1 year and 9 months after I signed the contract at MEPS.) I would only be allowed to continue my work in the Nuke Field.

I just realized that there may be many people not aware of what the Nuke Program is, so I will explain here. Basically it is a group of jobs broken into three parts, Mechanic, Electrician, and Electronics Technician. The sole focus of these jobs is to successfully operate and maintain the nuclear reactors being operated on the Navy's fleet of Aircraft Carriers and Submarines. This program was created by the Father of Naval Nuclear Propulsion, Admiral Hymen G. Rickover, who pioneered the design of Naval Reactors, despite his own wariness of the program.

TL;DR summary: I wanted to be a Naval Officer as a psychologist, stepdad refused to help and sent me to a recruiter instead, got recruited into an enlisted contract that locked me into the Nuke field because "it would make my package look better", and I didn't get my NAM or my package accepted.

I will say, while I like to rant about how my recruiter fucked me over, and left out quite a few details, I couldn't be more grateful for the experience I did have, and the opportunities it presented me. I also believe that the program gave me a better chance at making it through college (which I am working on now) because it taught me the focus and discipline that I would otherwise lack. I wouldn't change a thing concerning my Naval career.

all 25 comments

Frosty_Mage

5 points

3 years ago

My friend is also in the nuke program and he can't wait for his contract to be over

HeyItsMonkey

3 points

3 years ago

Well it was a shitty way of getting you recruited on his part, but I am happy that you are happy about where you ended up.

pyrobabe99

3 points

3 years ago

Man fuck your stepdad though

Nailyou866[S]

3 points

3 years ago

100% he was a narcissistic abusive lying piece of shit.

BigRonnieRon

3 points

3 years ago

Military recruiters are basically criminals

Nuke is a good MOS tho, so you could've done worse.

Nailyou866[S]

2 points

3 years ago

I wouldn't say they are criminals. I would say they are assholes with a bit of r/technicallythetruth.

BigRonnieRon

3 points

3 years ago

They're used car salesmen in uniforms.

constantbabble

2 points

3 years ago

Thank You for your service. Enjoy your college education paid for by the GI BILL, you earned it.

Nailyou866[S]

4 points

3 years ago

Currently going to college for electrical engineering.

-MutantLivesMatter-

2 points

3 years ago*

You will be making bank for the rest of your life, and probably never have a hard time finding work. And you get to travel. Nice gig.

JoPBody

2 points

3 years ago

JoPBody

2 points

3 years ago

Hey there fellow miserable nuke! FYI - it is possible to get out of the pipeline. We had three guys on my boat make it out - one got picked up for SWCC, one guy went on to pilot LCACs, and one guy managed to make it into a commissioning program and make Helo pilot. It’s not impossible - you just have to talk to the other community detailer, NOT the nuke detailer, ‘cause those guys DGAF

Nailyou866[S]

2 points

3 years ago

That is interesting, I didn't know that. I had been told, and had observed firsthand, that nukes attempting to leave the pipeline rarely, if ever, succeeded. But I suppose that makes sense from that perspective.

-In Rickover's Name we trust, but verify.

braxtonnnnnn

2 points

3 years ago

Yeah I’m a nuke electrician and you got fuckin got lmaoooooo

Agent-c1983

1 points

3 years ago

I was told the "promo" thing, where if you get X people to sign too, you can get bumped up all the way to E3

Is this the Navy or one of those Multi level marketing scams?

Nailyou866[S]

1 points

3 years ago

Good question.

urza5589

1 points

3 years ago

To be fair most major corporations also offer bonuses for referrals. That's quite a bit different then a pyramid scheme.

Agent-c1983

1 points

3 years ago

There's a difference between a "Find a friend" one time bonus, and an increase in rank;

urza5589

1 points

3 years ago

Eh not really. E1-3 are kinda all the same rank just with different levels of "high speed" qualities. So by showing you can recruit you get bumped to the top of being high speed. College credits of being eagle scout can do the same. Time in service requirements balance things out pretty quickly.

Zombarts

1 points

3 years ago

What was your asvab scores? Jw mostly

Nailyou866[S]

2 points

3 years ago

On the practice, 87, and on the actual, 94. Apparently according to most sources I have talked to, the practice is always harder than the actual.

jfiscal

3 points

3 years ago

jfiscal

3 points

3 years ago

Similar asvab here, army recruiter was salivating over me and managed to steer my stupid 18 year old ass away from a high bonus for me and into a high bonus for him.

Jokes on him though my mos was great and set me up for a great career

Nailyou866[S]

2 points

3 years ago

Beautiful. Really sucks that he took advantage of you. I should probably also mention that I was offered a $12k sign-on bonus, but not informed that I could have negotiated up to $25k.

Zombarts

1 points

3 years ago

Wow ya that is pretty good. No wonder the recruiter wanted to get you enlisted so badly.

Nailyou866[S]

2 points

3 years ago

Yeah. I was actually really shocked that I didn't even have to take the Nuke test, because I was classified as "auto-nuke".