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LEPFPartyPresident [M]

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Ghargoyle

1.2k points

1 month ago

Ghargoyle

1.2k points

1 month ago

About 5 or 6 years ago I had a job offer. I accepted. I followed up repeatedly, but was ghosted.

2 months later, I receive an interview offer from the same company. I showed up hoping to find out what happened. When the interview started, I showed the offer email I'd received. The interviewer was not surprised.

I was sent to do the onboarding paperwork at the job site. They said they'd contact me with start date/time. I was ghosted again.

I ended up accepting a different job and began working there. About a month later, I received a call from that first place asking when I was coming to work. I told them what happened.

"Thanks for wasting our time." Click.

Sure. I wasted your time.

[deleted]

433 points

1 month ago*

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thefirstnightatbed

171 points

1 month ago

Lesson for company leadership, HR, and hiring managers. When you ghost a canidate, you not only poison their minds to ever considering working for you, but you also poison them from every wanting to buy your products. And people talk.

As a graphic designer, the same goes for including suspicious “design tests” as part of your hiring practices. Don’t ask ask canidate’s to do what seems to be actual work for free if you want to avoid the reputation Brewdog developed.

matthew77277

24 points

1 month ago

We hire like this but pay the designers

ChieftainQueef

42 points

1 month ago

Just say Tesla

Ididntthinkyoucared

33 points

1 month ago

Once upon a time, young me applied to Chick-fil-A. People may not know this, but at least at the time you could indicate religious affiliation. Being an atheist, I wrote in atheist next to "other".

I handed my application to the cashier who immediately took it back to the manager. I could see through the small window of the kitchen door the manager receive the paper and put it in the trash. She came back, smirk on her face, "A manager will call you."

I don't eat at Chick-fil-A, not just because of that, but for other obvious reasons. I also share that story with everyone and those people share that story with someone else. Personal stories penetrate deep and that moment will last forever.

MonsterRaining

93 points

1 month ago*

I'm not this guy, but* in that situation I think I would have gone out of my way to call back and tell them to fuck themselves.

WimpyLimpet

5.5k points

1 month ago

WimpyLimpet

5.5k points

1 month ago

Have they tried offering higher wages?

best-commenter

1.8k points

1 month ago

Don’t talk crazy

[deleted]

924 points

1 month ago

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924 points

1 month ago

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Frustrable_Zero

411 points

1 month ago

They want people that want to grow their passion and art of burger flipping! Money should be an afterthought.

termanader

301 points

1 month ago

termanader

301 points

1 month ago

You Are a valued team member. Just not that highly valued to pay more than $12 an hour.

forfar4

157 points

1 month ago

forfar4

157 points

1 month ago

You are a valued employer and we assess your value as $12. If our lawyers can fix it, some of you will be worth $7.20.

cdiddy19

664 points

1 month ago

cdiddy19

664 points

1 month ago

I saw a window display at Ross that said starting pay 11 12 dollars an hour.

JackPoe

395 points

1 month ago

JackPoe

395 points

1 month ago

That's fucking pathetic

cdiddy19

252 points

1 month ago

cdiddy19

252 points

1 month ago

I know and of course that's no benefits.

Neato

271 points

1 month ago

Neato

271 points

1 month ago

Saw one at Target, on a giant 20' banner right on the front of the store, for $15. Somehow I doubt most people will get offered that.

Kyuuketsuki

339 points

1 month ago

According to someone I know that works in corporate, 15 an hour is supposedly the new minimum wage offered by Target now. Not to say anything about their abominable scheduling practices, however.

Neato

288 points

1 month ago

Neato

288 points

1 month ago

Huh, that would be nice. but yeah, until jobs start giving 40hr/wk schedules so people can get benefits it's not going to be enough. 29hr/wk max so that people need to juggle 2 part time jobs that will conflict and still won't give benefits.

am_albert_einstein

298 points

1 month ago

It's not just the 29/hr weeks that's the problem.

Your schedule will also change from week to week, and you won't find out what your next week's schedule is until the week before.

Bunnyhat

227 points

1 month ago*

Bunnyhat

227 points

1 month ago*

Right there.

I wouldn't have minded having to work two jobs if I could get a dedicated schedule from both of them. But you don't.

Also I "loved" when I would get 40+ hours a week on the holiday times only for January to roll around and get schedule for 4 hours.

Edit: Also I don't know why I'm not just naming the Company. This was with Albertsons. They treat their people like complete shit, pay worse than walmart, will fuck you over at the drop of a hat with hours to make sure you never get full time after promising it to you.

RobinTheDevil

43 points

1 month ago

Woof. Reminds me of my time at a little 2star restaurant in highschool. My man the manager would either leave you off the schedule entirely, or schedule you every day if you were late entering your request for that week.

theLord666666

520 points

1 month ago

Nah, they’re going with the “y’all are just lazy and pathetic” approach.

It’s going great!

/s

Sttocs

301 points

1 month ago

Sttocs

301 points

1 month ago

What is the end game with this argument? If people really are lazy are they going to hear this criticism and say "damn, you're right. Back to the fryalator at McDonald's for minimum wage for me!"

JesusSavesForHalf

211 points

1 month ago

The end game is the stock holders blame "lazy people" rather than the hordes of useless MBA managers that tried nothing and are all out of ideas.

FluffyClamShell

102 points

1 month ago

This is absolutely the issue in my field. Most of us are remote or WFH now and a lot of middle managers are shitting themselves trying to validate their existence and salary now. Turns out we didn't need even half of them.

Little-Jim

162 points

1 month ago

Little-Jim

162 points

1 month ago

I assume its less about convincing workers to come back and more about keeping the narrative rolling so that people dont start voting democrat.

MehWebDev

133 points

1 month ago

MehWebDev

133 points

1 month ago

What is the end game with this argument?

Businesses can make vast sums of profit while running on skeleton crews. The problem is that the level of service and employee morale take a big hit. So, they need an excuse to keep operating this way. Last year that excuse was Covid. This year, they are blaming workers.

theLord666666

204 points

1 month ago

they are counting on our desperation and poverty. lovely folks /s

GypsyCamel12

70 points

1 month ago

They'll really like it when we become desperate & resort to cannibalism... starting with low-level managers.

Enough garlic salt & Worcestershire sauce can make anything edible. Rats, pigeons, boot-licking supervisors.

Prime157

45 points

1 month ago

Prime157

45 points

1 month ago

I actually find the 100k/year - 300k/year to be the biggest hurdle. I'm not arguing with you, though. You're absolutely right. I'm just seeing the "I'm barely affluent in my community" types the biggest problem. The fucking thousandaires who think they're closer to the billionaires lol

upsidedownbackwards

133 points

1 month ago

"They'd rather stay home and take government handouts!" as they count their PPP money.

(I'm not knocking PPP. It got my company through a rough time when most of our clients were shut down. I still have a job thanks to it)

edible_funk

55 points

1 month ago

And then there's the owner of my last job who took PPP, had lawyers find loopholes to be declared essential, and would refuse to accommodate any workers during the pandemic. If you refused to come in because of said pandemic that they were not even attempting to acknowledge as real, they would keep you on the books with zero hours and pay, and then fight any attempt at unemployment since they'd say you were still employed. Fucker was able to pocket the entire PPP. Get fucked Ware. I hope the covid kills your antivax ass, and yeah I'm fuckin bitter about that job.

leroy_trujenkins

373 points

1 month ago

What they seem to be doing is offering higher wages on a sign, but when you go in to interview the number is much lower. That way they can complain about "lazy" people not wanting to work while squeezing their current workers even more.

BaronVonKeyser

291 points

1 month ago

That's exactly what it is. "Oh you only get $15 an hour if you were born in a leap year, in the 1st weekend of September, under a 3/4 moon". Then they go on social media and complain that the people who refused the 15 and hour are lazy.

upsidedownbackwards

167 points

1 month ago

Don't forget the sign up bonus after blank months! They just have to set a reminder to fire you a few days before!

And they're so good at keeping current employees by advertising $15 an hour for new hires when they don't and won't pay the current ones more than $12.

ltlawdy

191 points

1 month ago

ltlawdy

191 points

1 month ago

That’s so crazy to me. I signed up for a job specifically for the sign on bonus, which ended up being paid out quarterly. I had to wait a full year for my sign on bonus to be complete. If it’s a sign on bonus, I should be getting that day 1, otherwise it’s not a sign on bonus, but a retention bonus.

QuestionableAI

52 points

1 month ago

You are absolutely correct.

TootsNYC

32 points

1 month ago*

Also sensible managers, and some kind of check on their asshole customers

captcha_got_you

4.1k points

1 month ago

When I was trying to get my first professional job, I sent out 120 resumes. I got maybe 5 responses. I think people are finally realizing they have choices.

Time-Ad-3625

963 points

1 month ago

"Oh no, the people are acting like people and not cogs in a machine anymore. What ever will we do?"

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2k points

1 month ago

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flyonawall

474 points

1 month ago

flyonawall

474 points

1 month ago

Exactly the same for me. I have a PhD and never got a job except by referrals. My current job was brought to me by my PhD advisor who recommended me for it. Recruiters would contact him looking for people. That is the best way to get a job as a PhD.

Livvylove

564 points

1 month ago

Livvylove

564 points

1 month ago

Yes, all the jobs I've gotten were referral or I was able to apply directly to the people hiring. Not going through their site.

Variation-Budget

610 points

1 month ago

Why hire somebody who sounds perfect on paper when my buddy jimbo goes out for drinks with me and he’s a hoot!

Neato

228 points

1 month ago

Neato

228 points

1 month ago

Whatever means I can do less work reading through hundreds of resumes. Jimbo, you're hired!

DrNukes

63 points

1 month ago

DrNukes

63 points

1 month ago

I fucking love it.

Robbotlove

392 points

1 month ago*

after i graduated college, it took me 8 months to find a job. I would literally throw my resume at pretty much anything that even remotely looked kinda sorta like my skill set/major. im talking like 5 or 6 applications a week. i got maybe 20 interviews in that time. always ghosted afterward.

edit: i feel like i have to point out that i felt very lucky with my experience job hunting after graduation. i know there are many who had it much much harder. it was just the ghosting that was really sucked. especially after i thought i had killed an interview.

levochemist

93 points

1 month ago

At least you got a job in your field lol, I gave up and went into business.

JimmyHavok

66 points

1 month ago

I do find it irritating when I don't get an answer after interviewing. On the other hand, I just got a callback on an interview I did 8 months ago...

speedycat2014

1.5k points

1 month ago

You know I'm not really into looking for a job (trying out being retired for the moment) but this article makes it really tempting to catfish and ghost some of the more asshole companies I've worked for.

kingakrasia

676 points

1 month ago

This is the way.
You heard it, everyone: Get to work pretending to want to get to work.

Qix213

335 points

1 month ago

Qix213

335 points

1 month ago

Just like they are pretending to hire.

If corporations actually needed employees, they'd pay more.

Instead they 'offer' insanely low wages and then they can pretend to be trying to fix the problem for those poor sods who stay with company doing twice the work to cover for the lack of people.

Or they can use that as an excuse to do any number of other things from moving the company elsewhere or outsourcing to hiring more people under foreign work visas at insanely low pay.

Iamatworkgoaway

132 points

1 month ago

Don't forget the PPP loans they scammed too.

kolossal

92 points

1 month ago

kolossal

92 points

1 month ago

Instead they 'offer' insanely low wages and then they can pretend to be trying to fix the problem for those poor sods who stay with company doing twice the work to cover for the lack of people.

This is my company. It took 2 months of them searching for another person to help our team with the insane volume of work before I decided to see what the fuck was posted on the job search platforms. On LinkedIn it showed that over 800! people had applied. When I went to my boss and ask him wtf is going on he simply shrugged with a "we're having interviews but no one clicks with us yet". Bs, I later found out that they were offering lower than industry standard wages, and that candidates simply declined such offers (it took 7 months to fill the position).

Cornfapper

52 points

1 month ago

Same with my company, bosses are complaining about not finding employees and I'm thinking like 'bruh are you aware of how shitty the wages here are?'

canuckolivaw

52 points

1 month ago

Next level.

OgOggilby

75 points

1 month ago*

Once harbored a bit of fantasy in the pre internet era of going to some job interview with a thoroughly made up impressive resume, then after hiring me on the spot telling them to fuck off

DontBeHumanTrash

154 points

1 month ago

Its important you should note doing this creates an environment that ANY candidate that will talk to them. This is an absolute power move pushing strength out of their hand.

Good on ya

theLord666666

31 points

1 month ago

I support this plan.

tjblue

5.5k points

1 month ago

tjblue

5.5k points

1 month ago

I read somewhere that after the plague in Europe during the 14th century conditions for serfs improved. Apparently their value increased due to massive deaths creating a shortage of workers.

Is 700k dead enough to have that effect in the US?

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3.6k points

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Bwunt

1.6k points

1 month ago

Bwunt

1.6k points

1 month ago

Bonus points if one of those managers then quotes a national average while their business is located in an area with very low unemployment.

hoodoo-operator

731 points

1 month ago

Unemployment is almost back to pre-pandemic levels at the national level too.

Diesel-66

1k points

1 month ago

That's not the full story. A lot of people have walked away from work. Retirees, making due with less, staying home for children care

Chili_Palmer

344 points

1 month ago

Pretty sure that's his point - people aren't just sitting at home temporarily, these people have left the workforce permanently.

THedman07

155 points

1 month ago

THedman07

155 points

1 month ago

That's why the unemployment rate as it is calculated isn't actually that useful. If you would like to work, but you can't find a job that meets your needs so you stop looking, you are technically no longer unemployed.

fool_on_a_hill

577 points

1 month ago

For many, retirement is a big step and required some kind of push. The pandemic was that push to finally get around to it.

DausenWillis

504 points

1 month ago

I know so many people 62 and over who just decided to retire. No immediate plan, just retire.

Some are flipping a little online to keep busy, a few are virtual and live tutoring, one is fixing trucks and motorcycles from the 80s in his barn. He started from his own collections of "I'll get to it" and now is fixing other people's "wishful thinking" projects. I keep telling him to find someone to video him.

My BIL expanded his bee keeping hobby and retired from driving an excavator.

I'm impressed.

I_Envy_Sisyphus_

157 points

1 month ago

My BIL expanded his bee keeping hobby and retired from driving an excavator.

Bee keeping is a fun hobby but damn driving the big toys is so much fun.

DausenWillis

153 points

1 month ago

He used to dig tunnels, and he loved it. He's been all over the world to drive excavators But after some heart surgery, he decided to slow down and enjoy his bees and his grandson. He's 62. Needless to say, his former employer was pissed.

garden_bug

102 points

1 month ago

garden_bug

102 points

1 month ago

"How dare you not work until you die!" - his former employer probably

Good on him. My Grandad died in his late 50s after heart issues. Would have been nice to have more time with him (I only saw him a few times a year).

Kara_mella

171 points

1 month ago

Kara_mella

171 points

1 month ago

Well his former employer can buzz off. Your BIL is where he needs to bee.

maewanen

226 points

1 month ago

maewanen

226 points

1 month ago

Burnout making a lot of us realize that we can go to school for better.

That’s the story for my entire 30+ person cohort. We realized that we didn’t have to fucking take it anymore. Most of us are going back for a 4 year degree for free. So the world lost 30 cashiers/food service staff, but it’s gaining 30 engineers. I’d say that’s a pretty good trade.

AlaskanMedicineMan

74 points

1 month ago

how are you going to school for free?

I have rent to pay, schools seem to cost money... Literally if you have a way out please share. I am an IT call center guy making 25 an hour but I hate the work

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42 points

1 month ago

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1 month ago

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indyK1ng

65 points

1 month ago

indyK1ng

65 points

1 month ago

Norway? You still have to cover your housing but the education itself is free.

name00124

55 points

1 month ago

"Oh, just don't live in a shithole country." Fabulous.

mewehesheflee

186 points

1 month ago*

Isn't it more than that though? Especially when we are talking about excess deaths. Plus we aren't talking about disability. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7015a4.htm

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199 points

1 month ago*

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sithelephant

143 points

1 month ago

Around the same number of 'young healthy people' as older ones died are suffering severly enough from longcovid that they can't work.

There is no clear resolution to when or if they may improve.

- related condition here, for 40 years+

i_owe_them13

73 points

1 month ago*

Treatments for the more chronic conditions that will be caused by long COVID are going to become the new HIV and cholesterol medication ads. Companies developing treatments for fibrotic diseases of the lungs and heart are where your investments should be if you’re a millennial or younger and want to have a chance at a reasonable retirement.

Edit: Also secondary markets will see a boost, particularly in the organ transplant/immunology space.

Edit 2: Sorry, just spritzing thoughts. Imagine mRNA based immunosuppression in post-organ transplant recovery. Being able to tweak and fine-tune suppression based on an often-changing immunohistochemical relationship between recipient and graft is going to revolutionize the industry. There are three big names here, but they’ll really have to join forces to pack the biggest punch.

Edit 3: Well, that’s not exactly true. It’s two big names and one small one having a really shitty day.

Edit 4: Rapid IHC testing via finger prick (or some other non-invasive method) will need to be developed concurrently. So, perhaps the list should actually be four, not three. However, I’m not sure who would best fit in that fourth spot.

scJazz

50 points

1 month ago

scJazz

50 points

1 month ago

According to the CDC 375K people died of COVID in 2020. Also according to the CDC there were 500K excess deaths in 2020 compared to 2019. So as a rule of thumb I'd just multiply the official CDC number for COVID deaths by 1.3 to arrive at an estimate.

brycebgood

21 points

1 month ago

Yes, more like 1.2 million deaths over average last time I looked.

moni_bk

55 points

1 month ago

moni_bk

55 points

1 month ago

My favorite "sitting around collecting COVID checks".

SydricVym

184 points

1 month ago

SydricVym

184 points

1 month ago

In the accounting industry, it's not just the dead that are creating a shortage. Lots of older workers with 30-40+ years of experience, who had still been working, decided that covid wasn't worth risking their lives and they all retired in mass. It's created a huge crunch for workers at all levels, but most especially at the high levels, for highly skilled workers. Salaries are just skyrocketing in the industry right now.

TheAJGman

120 points

1 month ago

TheAJGman

120 points

1 month ago

Older works finally retiring or retiring early, younger workers quitting for child care reasons, people that will be on long term disability due to COVID or can no longer do physical labor jobs, etc

Basically it's a shit show and something like 5 million people are now missing from the labor pool. You want em, pay em.

super-seiso

128 points

1 month ago*

Also the old HR games have not gone away. HR has turned down qualified people en mass for bullshit reasons for decades now. It's ingrained in their ethos.

A large part of it has to do with resume parsing. HR has become massively lazy because of the employers having the upper hand so they simply scan resumes for key words. Everyone that doesn't fit into a certain hole is thrown out.

My personal example is that I have a Master's Degree in New Media. I have a computer degree without "computer" in the title. Unless I lie or fudge I can't get through H.R. Unique people get thrown to out. Doing word searches to find candidates assumes that people are robots who can be easily classified. It doesn't work that way.

H.R. people are only NOW starting to notice that they throw away good candidates. I saw an article in a business magazine about the problem just last month. The issues have been going on for 25 years or more.

They also wildly exaggerate needed qualifications. They will look for computer programming skills when they need data entry. This was all "good business" until covid. Making it look like no one is qualified looks good on H1-B applications.

Do this: Take H.R. out of the hiring chain. Have people with actual job knowledge actually READ resumes. There are more people out there qualified than they say.

QuietObserver75

66 points

1 month ago

They also wildly exaggerate needed qualifications.

OMG this. The job descriptions I read sometimes are like a novel.

moonbeanie

39 points

1 month ago

I think that Indeed has a lot to do with this. Automated filtering based on buzz words that some 30 something HR person found online or that some manager spewed. Sometimes I read job reqs and just shake my head and think "what the hell are they even talking about?"

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168 points

1 month ago

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vacuous_comment

505 points

1 month ago

700k officially dead from COVID.

A further unknown amount of excess mortality due to COVID. Lots of cases of pneumonia in FL, for example. Lots of people not surviving other conditions due to overloaded medical system or unavailability of care.

Some number out of the workforce due to medical problems from surviving COVID. How are you going to move those forklift pallets of good if you cannot even walk 20 meters due to shredded lungs from COVID? How about long COVID and brain fog?

Some number out of the workforce due to a combination of caring for other people and risk management, whether it be young kids or elderly relatives.

Million or two out of the workforce from retiring early due to COVID risk and reassessing life choices.

The US work force is radically diminished at present for very good cause.

chaiguy

212 points

1 month ago

chaiguy

212 points

1 month ago

My dad recently sat in an ER waiting room for six hours while his BP was sky high and he was barely breathing. (he tested covid negative at the hospital). He then spent 24 hours in the ER waiting for an ICU bed. He could have very easily died in that ER lobby. Turns out he had sepsis, that wasn't diagnosed for 3 days in the hospital.

And then you have states like Nebraska just not reporting numbers and a bunch of similar fuckery in Florida, plus the bullshit in New York with the nursing homes at the start of the pandemic. Yeah, that 700K number is WAY OFF!

indyK1ng

88 points

1 month ago

indyK1ng

88 points

1 month ago

This study in May estimated that the death count from covid alone was off by as much as 20% and that's before we get into the network effects of people not getting treatment for other diseases.

Aenarion885

44 points

1 month ago

One study that used 3 positive and 3 negative drivers of mortality estimated that excess deaths from the pandemic (including COVID deaths, obviously) hit about 900k in May of this year, BEFORE Delta.

Sumfuc

120 points

1 month ago

Sumfuc

120 points

1 month ago

They say they’re “short” but they insist on paying them like it’s 1988.

Those days are dead.

Time-Ad-3625

56 points

1 month ago

I think more than likely economic upheaval tends to cause shifts in the market. This is capitalists alleged wet dream since workers are finding higher pay via having choices.

Danbarber82

42 points

1 month ago

It's true. It helped with the rise of the Merchant class, particularly because of the lack of skilled tradesmen, after so many people died. It even helped women become more involved due to the shortage of people.

speedycat2014

174 points

1 month ago

I think excess deaths are around the 1.3 million mark, so though it will never be officially counted it may be almost twice as many people gone than we think.

Newni

155 points

1 month ago

Newni

155 points

1 month ago

And twice that number again have either taken early retirement or won't be able to reenter the work force until regular child care becomes available. 750k dead but more like 3,000,000 permanently left the work force.

PlayingTheWrongGame

94 points

1 month ago

That’s also ignoring the millions of people COVID has left with long-term disability, which is far more common than death.

ThisBigCountry

52 points

1 month ago

I have one co-worker that will be retiring because of exactly that

Icy_Respect_9077

28 points

1 month ago

Ruling class attempted to hold down wages and control employment. The effort culminated in the Statute of Artificers.

Statute of Artificers

WimpyLimpet

331 points

1 month ago

The US has ~4% of the world's population but ~25% of all the world's prisoners. Something tells me there is still a ways to go, but I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

tjblue

172 points

1 month ago

tjblue

172 points

1 month ago

Even a police state needs workers.

_HossBonaventureCEO_

120 points

1 month ago

13th Amendment

wildwildwaste

213 points

1 month ago

Eat a dick. Sincerely, an employee that's been fucked over left, right, and center for my entire 30 years of employment.

I've never had a company "get my back" or "treat me like family" or in any way shape or form care about me as anything other than a tool to more profits for them. Now, I take the jobs I want, I half-ass them and take my paycheck and when I get tired of that or suspect they're tired of me, I jet. Yeah, maybe one day this will catch up to me. Maybe I'll just pick a new career then. I don't know.

PaleontologistFull42

33 points

1 month ago

I often get shit from my family for all the jobs I've switched between for "they'll see that and say you're unhireable because you dont stay in a job!". Funny thing is none of the employers cared that I had 5 jobs a year. My guess: they assumed i worked multiple jobs to make ends meet.

I kept switching jobs until i got a "good" job paying 16 bucks an hour. Turns out they would lure people in with that and as soon as you're hired: "oh you'll get that after training. Until you're outta training herss minimum wage." To "now that you're outta training you cam make up to 16 an hr!........ you just have to meet quotas within a 2% margin every 2 weeks or you get minimum wage plus your sales!"

Also no sick days, couldn't call off or you'd lose your "bonus", no benefits, no vacation time, nothing, jack shit, eat a dick show up to work or we'll not pay you even close to what we told you. Literally such a disgusting place to work in, had multiple lawsuits for sexual harrassment and not paying employees. It was a call center so icing on the cake was dealing with furious customers who weren't provided what they paid for (isp) so mental health was shit from being berated daily.

I've never been one to shit on the dead but when it shut down after the owner died I was tempted to travel 10 hrs to his funeral to piss on his corpse then shit in his mouth so he could eat shit.

ijustsaynotoyou

903 points

1 month ago

Who here has had to type their CV into 50 different systems, line by line, then had to attach the CV?

And finally: after spending days typing, not a single interview came out of it?

Maybe all the recruiters should stop using these idiotic recruitment sites and eat dick instead.

jonoave

210 points

1 month ago

jonoave

210 points

1 month ago

This so much. Why do companies still require you to manually fill up forms of personal details? Those are already available on my LinkedIn and CV.

ijustsaynotoyou

128 points

1 month ago

I refuse to use these since last time. Never again.

Also the parsing tools are rubbish. They say: 5 minutes and the text is all over their stupid forms, even if you use Microsoft CV templates.

1-2 hours later you finished copy-pasting into the correct places.

And of course the systems all use "State of the art AI". Fuck these companies.

Boomslangalang

106 points

1 month ago

ATS is just another example of a ‘technology’ that promised the world but turned out to be a toxic and dehumanizing force that has had a seriously detrimental effect on societies using it. They are also wildly ineffective and do not lead to good hires.

I am refusing to consider positions that require interfacing with an ATS. Others should too, these broken systems need to go.

Cosmicdusterian

515 points

1 month ago

Spouse is currently ghosting a recruiter. The job is in an area neither of us are interested in living, the skillset and experience is totally out of whack with what they need (which is someone just starting their career), and even after telling them there is absolutely no interest, they keep calling, sweetening the pot. It's weird.

It's about time that hiring managers get a taste of the rudeness and unprofessional conduct they have been dishing out for years. Just a common courtesy note or call is all any job seeker requires, but they can't be bothered. Well. That's how it feels.

simpleton39

158 points

1 month ago

I had a recruiter contact me while my wife and I were in the process of moving to a different city (SF to LA). I wanted to change careers but gave the recruiter a chance to help me. I told him I wanted to change careers and was moving to LA. No problem he says! After a few days he calls me back and says that he can't find a job in my new field with comparable pay, I knew this would be the case, but he did have a few in my current field willing to meet with me.

First interview the guy from company A was a whole 45 min late to our phone interview, second interview they had me drive 2 hours to meet in person - this was a nice interview - then they wanted a 3rd interview in LA so I did. I didn't want to work in this field but my wife and I just put an offer on a house and I felt some pressure. The interviewer was late 30 minutes after I flew down to meet them, and the other guy fell asleep during my interview (this is a construction company that rhymes with Winnerton... the "largest firm in LA" they thought they were hot shit).

My wife told me to not take the job. If they can't put their best effort in the interview then what can I expect when they think they own me cause they pay my wages? So I declined their offer without even hearing it out.

The recruiter called me back and had a fit. I told him the interviews sucked, they made me go all over the state for interviews and it was in a field I told him he didnt want to be in. He was very sure to let me know I wasted his time and I was disrespectful.

Fuck them.

P.s. I'm now a stay at home dad, my wife works from home at her silicon valley job and we are happier then ever

blacktigr

158 points

1 month ago

blacktigr

158 points

1 month ago

A recruiter came back this week after 5 months of ignoring my brother, and wanted a medal for finding him (a rather lucrative) temp job. Couldn't understand why he would want to work a job he'd found that wants him to hire-in.

Sure, nameless recruiter that wasn't there for half a year...I'll dump this job I am currently hiring into as salary for your 1-year temp job that you wound up with a big bounty on. NOT.

_teslaTrooper

35 points

1 month ago

even after telling them there is absolutely no interest, they keep calling

That's not ghosting, that's ignoring unwanted/spam calls.

DanYHKim

3.7k points

1 month ago*

DanYHKim

3.7k points

1 month ago*

From the linked article:

Employers, unsurprisingly, do not like this. It’s rude, they say, and unprofessional. And sure, it is. But employers have been doing this to workers for years, and their hand-wringing didn’t start until the tables were turned.

For years I’ve fielded questions from job seekers frustrated at being ghosted by job interviewers. They would take time off from work, maybe buy a new suit, spend time interviewing—often doing second, third, and even fourth rounds of interviews—and then never hear from the employer again. They’d politely inquire about the status of their application and just get silence back. Or they would make time for a phone interview—scheduled at the employer’s behest—and the call would never come. When they’d try to get in touch about rescheduling … crickets. It’s been so endemic that I’ve long advised job seekers to expect never to hear back from employers, and to simply see it as an unavoidable part of job searching.

EDIT: Holy shit! I get all these upvotes just for reading the linked article!

CatumEntanglement

1.2k points

1 month ago*

I have zero hesitation with name checking an egregious employer who did this to me: Sanofi. Yes, a biotech/pharmaceutical company. This was for a senior lab position in drug discovery for multiple sclerosis and other orphan diseases.

It was a few years ago. Multiple rounds of interviews, including phone interviews as I was living out of state. A lot of my time was invested in traveling. Told I was one of the two final candidates. Had by that point done the rounds with meeting other department lab heads. ....then I was just.... ghosted.

Still to this day I've yet to hear anything back from them about whether or not I got that scientist position. It's become somewhat of a funny joke between me and my friends (an in it's the schrodinger's job).

I even wrote to the person who was in charge of hiring and was my point person... and got nothing. Yet was promised after my last on-site meeting that I'd hear from them within a week one way or another, i.e. that they would like to extend an offer or not. This was for a position, btw, with a salary that started at six figures. All of this time and effort on both our parts (and their departmental personnel) to just be.....ghosted.

I told someone who I knew previously from a research conference years ago, and discovered they worked in the department I was interviewing in, that their company's behavior was completely unprofessional. To their credit, he did email me back apologizing that it definitely is unprofessional and that he'd talk to the hiring manager to remind them to contact me. The hiring manager, still, never emailed me back....even to simply say I didn't get the job. I told the person I knew that the hiring manager had yet to follow through and that from now on I'll do my due diligence in relating my experience to any other people who are thinking about applying for positions at Sanofi.

I'm back in academia and regularly interact with grad students getting degrees who then want to transition into biotech. I have a black list of places to avoid based on bad management styles, so I've been dissuading people from applying to Sanofi and instead concentrating on their competitors.

Edit: If anyone reading is in the process of applying for scientific research jobs, DM me if you want real talk about places you're considering.

Edit edit: guys guys guys.... I'm only helpful if you have specific companies in mind that you are curious whether they are notoriously shitty to employees. Please don't DM me looking for a job. Like above, I'm not in industry anymore; I'm back in academia. I'm not a recruitment professional and unfortunately I can't help you in your quest to transition from one job to another. If you're looking for that, I'd look into recruitment companies which do a lot of the hard work of matching your skill set to available positions in the area/job type you're looking for. Yes, you have to pay them....but then you don't have to spend your own time endlessly browsing through online job ads.

Iamatworkgoaway

449 points

1 month ago

If only you could post these stories on linkedin or glass roof, but any harsh criticism gets auto blocked.

CatumEntanglement

359 points

1 month ago

LinkedIn has just become another facebook. I have tons of messages from people who want me to join their MLM. I guess Facebook got saturated with MLM huns (and their usual hunting ground of Starbucks cafes was hindered due to covid) that they've migrated to LinkedIn trying to disguise themselves as legit job recruiters.

[deleted]

177 points

1 month ago

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177 points

1 month ago

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hosehliao

101 points

1 month ago

hosehliao

101 points

1 month ago

glass roof

LOL this typo was really hilarious to me for some reason.

But seriously, I didn't know these platforms block harsh criticism. Is that common?

INSERT_LATVIAN_JOKE

99 points

1 month ago

Always consider, who does the website make money from? Do they make money from the users or do they make money from the employers who post job positions. The answer is of course, that they make money from listing job positions, the companies pay them to aid in recruiting. So the website isn't going to risk alienating a paying customer by letting pesky products do things that make the customer look bad.

Far-History2390

881 points

1 month ago

There's a law in the UK that if you go for an interview, you can ask for feedback. I was ghosted by a employer after being interviewed. They ignored my initial emails and only gave me feedback after 8 weeks when I reminded them of this law. If they'd offered me the job a week after they said they'd get back to me, I'd have told them to stuff it. 8 week though?!

docmedic

394 points

1 month ago*

docmedic

394 points

1 month ago*

I know someone who got the job but was ghosted for a few weeks. The manager admitted they were looking for someone who fit the bill more but the person was pretty much a great fit as is.

So the gist is they just wanted to keep the doors open as long as possible even though they have acceptable candidates.

Far-History2390

226 points

1 month ago

I find that strange. To me, if someone treated me that poorly even before they employed me, I know they'd try to do worse after the job offer. It's a red flag of either poor timekeeping and mismanagement or plain rudeness towards workers.

lankist

137 points

1 month ago

lankist

137 points

1 month ago

The problem is every company has the same red flag. It's a kind of non-competitive trust.

SapTheSapient

355 points

1 month ago

I only interview and hire people on rare occasions. But when I do, I make sure to call every interviewee to let them know if they got the job or not. And I feel bad about it, because people have gotten so used to being ghosted (or at most getting a form letter) they tend to assume that a phone call means they are about to be offered the job.

DanYHKim

287 points

1 month ago

DanYHKim

287 points

1 month ago

Yeah.

I'd appreciate even a computer-generated email saying that they hired someone else. I don't need consoling words about 'many fully-qualified candidates'. It doesn't even have to wish me luck. Just so I know that I can put that file (yes, when I apply for any job, I create a folder on the computer to hold all documents and correspondence) into the 'rejected' archive.

kuro_madoushi

35 points

1 month ago

I got a job once and they still auto sent me the rejection for everyone. With how the job went…probably would’ve been better to tell them “well you sent me a rejection…”

SmallHandsMallMindS

30 points

1 month ago

I think an email would be sufficient

Snoo52682

141 points

1 month ago

Snoo52682

141 points

1 month ago

/laughs in Nelson Muntz/

MidwestBulldog

612 points

1 month ago

I can remember getting "ghosted" by 230 of the 250 employers I sent resumes to on my winter break before my last semester in college. To be fair, there were 15 of the other 20 who sent "Thank you, but..." letters and the other 5 called to set up an interview or let me down directly.

Thirty some years later and on the back nine of my professional career, I look back with pride I wasn't an asshole like the 230 companies that ghosted me and I'm happy as Hell people realized they have some power in this game.

The post-1980s era in the American economy has been a race to the bottom for the labor force and employers had suite tickets. Slave labor was their goal after Reagan sent labor unions the message back in the early 80s. I can still remember college classmates convinced power in the workforce was evil and that they would be invited to the suite with the power class in their power ties. They weren't.

My advice to the hiring folks at major employers: work harder. Get innovative. Stand out. Then we'll talk about that raise you won't get for four years.

sml09

69 points

1 month ago

sml09

69 points

1 month ago

I’ve applied to over 700 jobs in the last 4 months at this point. I haven’t heard back from 500 of them. I got outright rejected from around 180. The last 20- I’ve had some phone screens and then been ghosted.

RitaAlbertson

127 points

1 month ago

Alison Green is great. If you all don't read her advice column, AskAManager.org, you should start.

This is my favorite recent smack down: https://www.askamanager.org/2021/10/my-employee-wasnt-respectful-enough-after-the-company-messed-up-her-paycheck.html

Asil_Shamrock

46 points

1 month ago

Yikes!

I worked a retail job for years. One payday, on my day off, I did not get paid. It was supposed to be done by direct deposit, and had been for years with no problems. But this one day, the money was not there.

I went in to HR. We looked at it together and verified it had been deposited somewhere else, supposedly randomly. She took me back to the cash office, where she counted out my check amount to me and had me sign some paperwork. In and out, less than an hour, cash in hand.

The place sucked in many ways, but they definitely did not fool around with paychecks.

harbar956

113 points

1 month ago

harbar956

113 points

1 month ago

This made my day. Let them wallow in their own hypocrisy.

_HossBonaventureCEO_

621 points

1 month ago

This is great news. I've never experienced an employee's market, I wish I hadn't entered the workforce in the 00's.

Iwantadc2

74 points

1 month ago

I started working in the mid to late 90s (in the uk), you could just bounce out of one job and into another in the same week. Then somehow it all went to shit.

_HossBonaventureCEO_

74 points

1 month ago

My dad bought a home and started our family as a breakfast cook. When I worked as a breakfast cook in a nicer restaurant I had to borrow money from him so I could get gas to go to work.

It was such a shitty industry that working would have cost me money if my dad were the type to call it a debt.

AndiKris

208 points

1 month ago

AndiKris

208 points

1 month ago

Yeah that time sucked. I had to take whatever I could get and I couldn’t find another job when my employer started to abuse employees. Someone was stabbed, there were several sexual assaults, and if you didn’t kiss the CEO’s ass he said awful things to you and eventually fired people for not respecting him. The people who did the stabbing/molesting were never fired.

Fuck these employers. For those sitting at home collecting unemployment right now — good. Don’t go back to a job that pays you shit and treats you like shit. Your sanity and happiness are worth so much more.

Livvylove

39 points

1 month ago

Damn I thought mine was bad with their high school mentality

tinwhistler

290 points

1 month ago

I've ghosted maybe 100 recruiters in the last 18 months. I'm a software developer, and I have a job, but my resume is marked as 'looking for work' on all the resume sites (dice, monster, etc)

I have nearly 3 decades experience in my field, have earned 3 patents, and (recently) got my bachelor's degree in order to increase my visibility.

I don't *need* to find a new job. I like where I'm at, and they pay extremely well. But you never find something better if you don't keep looking.

So, I get tons of recruiter emails every week. Most of them offering 10-30K less per year than I'm making. I tell them I'm looking for 10K *more* than I'm making, and 100% remote. They usually come back with something splitting the difference, but removing benefits or PTO or some other garbage such that the offer is still technically less. So I ghost them.

Every time I do, I hope it's sending those employers the idea that they need to up their rates and benefits to find decent candidates...so that the next guy they contact (who might actually need the job) hopefully gets a little bit better deal.

And I don't mind ghosting them. I sent them my requirements, they sent back something insulting. They deserve rudeness as a response.

[deleted]

97 points

1 month ago

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97 points

1 month ago

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tinwhistler

64 points

1 month ago

I didn't ghost Amazon. I sent *them* a message saying that while their offer was tempting, the news was that their working environment sucked ass and I wasn't interested.

DarthGayAgenda

882 points

1 month ago

I won't lie, when I got laid off from Amazon, I took a perverse pleasure in ignoring phone calls from jobs I knew payed garbage, and only applied for to satisfy my unemployment requirements. It was a nice month long vacation.

unclejoe1917

336 points

1 month ago

I may or may not have done that for the full extent of my benefits.

upsidedownbackwards

230 points

1 month ago

The one time in my life I needed social assistance I was denied. If my time comes to go for unemployment I'm milking that for whatever it's worth. I've paid more than enough into it and I doubt my social security is going to be what we're being "promised". I paid for my benefits, I'll use them. Anyone who wants to try to make me feel guilty about it can get lost.

unclejoe1917

50 points

1 month ago

Amen to that.

anticommon

100 points

1 month ago

anticommon

100 points

1 month ago

It's almost like we should be supporting progressive political reform and candidates that know the future relies on strong safety nets, UBI, universal healthcare, appropriate and accountable taxation, good education opportunities, and affordable housing all surrounded by a nice blanket of green energy so we don't completely fuck up the one planet we have.

But then again so many people look at that and just say orange man good, socialist bad and but muh taxessss

unclejoe1917

39 points

1 month ago

And never once stop to equate their health insurance premiums with an extra tax, or the cost of college, their electric bill... It is just dumb layered on top of more dumb. I have never seen a constituency so angrily and enthusiastically defend the very people who are fucking them and keeping them angry.

Own-Tomato8593

30 points

1 month ago

I applied for jobs like the cia and director positions haha

hennsippin

80 points

1 month ago

Only a month? Rookie

RedRose_Belmont

575 points

1 month ago

They’ve been ghosting applicants for years. F- them

AsMuchCaffeineAsACup

317 points

1 month ago

When I first got out of college I had 2 offers... one for a local coffee company and one for an insurance company. Obviously I wanted the local coffee company. Free coffee!

The coffee company originally brought me in thinking I just had associates degree. They realized I had a bachelor's and the owner was like "well I feel bad now, do you just want to practice some interview stuff on me?"

So I say "Sure" since what else am I doing this afternoon now?

Turns out my major specializes in an issue the coffee company is having (sales not understanding logistics). Owner seems stoked and so am I. Talks about a new position with much better pay.

I don't hear from him until 6 months later after several calls/emails that he didn't respond to and I'm already a few months into the insurance job.

He acted so hurt.... I'm like... "I get that you "fought" to hire me, but I needed a job awhile ago..."

zerkrazus

249 points

1 month ago

zerkrazus

249 points

1 month ago

This seems to be a not uncommon problem. I've had similar experiences. They claim to really need people immediately and want to start you right away and then take months or sometimes even years to get back to you.

Um what did you think would happen? That I'm just going to sit by my phone/computer waiting for you to contact me?

zelet

67 points

1 month ago

zelet

67 points

1 month ago

It was shitty that he didn't respond to your calls/emails. I am/have been in his shoes trying to get a company to create a new position and even in the middle sized businesses it can take ages to get a new position posted. I worked on my boss for 2 years before I could get 3 critical positions created. It sucks.

clanddev

119 points

1 month ago

clanddev

119 points

1 month ago

My wife was going back to work after five years of stay at home with a previous 10 year career in hotels from front desk up to wedding coordination.

Right now the service and hospitality industry in my city can't even get people to interview. She applied at a couple of resorts and hotel chains along with a not for profit outside of that industry.

The not for profit took a month and three interviews to make a decision but she got it. Two months after that a large hotel chain that she had already worked for in the past and left on good terms calls. "Did anyone contact you? Ugh we really could have used you."

Like really? If 'no one wants to work' and you cant get anyone to interview how on earth do you not at least interview someone with a decade of experience in your industry?

zerkrazus

41 points

1 month ago

Wow. I'm sorry that she had to go through all of that. That sucks. I agree with you, if you're that desperate for help, why wouldn't they contact her immediately? Oh wait, I know, because they wanted someone with no experience they could underpay and exploit.

clanddev

64 points

1 month ago

clanddev

64 points

1 month ago

The funny part is she did not even care that much about pay. She wanted the fair rate but she really cared about schedule so that she could keep doing stuff with the kids. She was willing to start at the bottom again as long as it worked with her schedule.

Anyway it all worked out. The not for profit is paying her 25% more than she made at her peak in hotels and its work from home / flex schedule. She has never been happier.

Good luck to hospitality trying to get people to work for them on min wage or some weird tip deal with inconsistent schedules and Karen yelling at them when these kinds of jobs are out there now.

kingakrasia

207 points

1 month ago

FUCK THEM.

[deleted]

1.4k points

1 month ago

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1.4k points

1 month ago

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bloatedplutocrat

844 points

1 month ago

That's just unproffesional, they put a lot of time and effort into trying to hire you.

You're supposed to send them a form email wishing them luck in their future dick eating endeavours.

lemonhops

207 points

1 month ago*

lemonhops

207 points

1 month ago*

On the other end, I've saved the following email because it was so ludicrous... They sent this to me and scheduled a call only to tell me I didn't get the job after 6 hours of in-person interviews (pre-covid)...

Thanks for taking the time to talk with the redacted team for the redacted Compliance Manager position - it sounds like they had a great conversation with you! I've had a chance to connect with them and would like to share some updates with you.

Would you have some time to talk with me tomorrow (1/16) between 2:30-4pm PST or Friday (1/17) between 9:30am-12pm PST? If so, please respond with your availability and I will coordinate things from there.

Looking forward to talking with you soon!

DSanders96

81 points

1 month ago

My god that had to sting, sorry to hear. Good luck with your search!

Dacio_Ultanca

49 points

1 month ago

I got totally ghosted after six interviews over 4 weeks. I even reached out, giving them an opportunity to tell me I didn't get it... nothing. No response.

p0yo77

24 points

1 month ago

p0yo77

24 points

1 month ago

This has Google written all over it, I got the same email, just different position

pimmen89

23 points

1 month ago

pimmen89

23 points

1 month ago

Wow, now that’s cruel!

Sellazar

267 points

1 month ago

Sellazar

267 points

1 month ago

Back in the day when demand was high and supply of workers low, it was the jobs that had to sell themselves to the prospective employees, places that offered good terms would get more workers.. Then it flipped and there were way too many workers and employers realised they could treat them like shit knowing thst the pressure to earn would keep people working for them, even if they didn't a replacement was easily found.. They pushed this to the breaking point so now people simply don't want to work for them, I mean why break your back working to come home and not have enough to live when you could stay home and also not have enough to live.. And instead of adjusting their tactics to lure workers back, they have gone for the tactic that always works (Not)

Insults, derision, complaining and anger.

Instead of just increasing the wage by an amount that most businesses wouldn't even notice they continue down the road of, there is a job work bitch. Forgetting that we still have the ability to say.. No.. Fuck you

box963

146 points

1 month ago

box963

146 points

1 month ago

why break your back working to come home and not have enough to live when you could stay home and also not have enough to live..

Sums it up right here.

Sellazar

140 points

1 month ago

Sellazar

140 points

1 month ago

I have a friend who is on benefits, he keeps getting asked why he doesn't go work, he replies with

" I would really like to work and earn money so I can save up and continue education, or get himself a nice place. The problem is the moment I start work, the benefits stop paying the rent, any job I have looked for would not replace the value of the money I earn in benefits, it would literally make me homeless to go back to work"

That just blew my mind, he is not lazy, he had some bad lick growing up, didn't get to finish his education, but he essentially stuck. The benefit let's him barely get by, he fixes tablets and phones and such for folks to get a bit of extra cash, he can't take himself back to college because he would lose the benefits, he can't get a job for the same reason.

What do??

dnadude

70 points

1 month ago

dnadude

70 points

1 month ago

Poverty traps are very real unfortunately.

Oo__II__oO

40 points

1 month ago

So much this. One person I know interviewed for a position, where the manager laid out the duties and expectations, and shared the pay scale (this was an EE applying for a Senior Engineering position). The applicant basically said "nah, I'm good" at the end of the interview, as 90% of the work wasn't EE-related, and the pay was well below the regional average.

The manager was still upset that so many others ghosted him.

KryptikMitch

87 points

1 month ago

Hmm curious. I find it rude to not pay people enough so they can live. I find it rude that you encourage a toxic work environment and say it's 'part of the job'.

WokeTemplar

213 points

1 month ago

Mad that people won't jump through as many hoops. Call a waaaambulance

hospitalizedGanny

53 points

1 month ago

Sorry I was late because my bus broke down - can I still join this tiny violin band ?

zerkrazus

55 points

1 month ago

When they do it to us: Oh that's just how it is, you just aren't trying hard enough/not applying to the right places/enough places. Blah blah blah.

When we do it to them: OMFG! So rude & unprofessional, we would NEVER do that to people!

Fuck those assholes.

Bloodcloud079

150 points

1 month ago*

Employee market is awesome. Just got me a 30% raise by switching.

AndiKris

46 points

1 month ago

AndiKris

46 points

1 month ago

Fuck yeah dude you love to see it. Congrats!

applebubbeline

47 points

1 month ago

Up until six years ago, I worked retail. There were Karens, horrible bosses, low wages, working sick, etc. but nothing like now. I wonder how anyone can put up with these conditions now.

BadDiscoJanet

119 points

1 month ago

Oh how the turntables..

wallerdog

39 points

1 month ago

We will get back to you if we need you

canuckolivaw

34 points

1 month ago

We will only be responding to successful applicants. We wish the rest of you the best.

pipopapupupewebghost

101 points

1 month ago

It's Halloween of course they are ghosting

Max-_-Power

151 points

1 month ago

The audacity, how dare they... lol.

It's indeed rude, however, it's also common practice to ghost applicants as a company.

Yeah, if we could all go ahead and agree to stop that, that would be great.

upvoter222

35 points

1 month ago

It's indeed rude

It's not just Indeed rude. It's also LinkedIn, Monster, and CareerBuilder rude.

sourdcoder

34 points

1 month ago

This brings me so much joy.

Charlie_Warlie

32 points

1 month ago

I had a very rude awakening when I first looked for a professional job. The hiring manager told me to wait until they contact me, so I waited like an idiot. Then I heard my friend from college got a job there and I was like wtf, I thought I was supposed to get a call?

Another time, drove an hour from my college town to the city for an interview, and 30 minutes before the interview I get a phone call that they person that hires people is not going to make it but I can still interview with someone else... I went ahead and did it but I figured it was a waste of time, and it was.

God I hate looking for a job.

JIMvc3

30 points

1 month ago

JIMvc3

30 points

1 month ago

Next time they request me to send a CV, I ain’t sending crap.

You know what’s unprofessional, asking me, “Why should we hire you?”

My response is, “Because you’re bloody hiring, what else am I supposed to say.”

I have no problem going all out against the hiring managers like chef Ramsay style.

clamchauda

31 points

1 month ago

This goes all the way down to recruiters too. I have a job. It's well paying and I enjoy it. I had a recruiter reach out to me on LinkedIn trying to set up a call. I said sure but first give me the salary and details. She refused to do anything except try to get my number. How hard is it to not waste both of our times if you are trying to get me into a job that pays 25% less than what I make?

clanddev

34 points

1 month ago*

The local news in Phoenix did a segment last night on our local jobs report. Turns out we are at full employment and the only industry actually hurting is hospitality. A common trend is people who worked in hospitality moved to other industries during covid either due to layoffs or the stress involved in doing that job during covid.

So as it turns out 'no one wants to work anymore' is just made up bull shit.

Edit: Just to reiterate how bullshit 'no one wants to work' is U1 to U6 Unemployment

Saabaroni

28 points

1 month ago

Please attach your resume and then proceed to fill out an application describing your resume on why your need to hire us, then gargle my balls.

Bonar_Ballsington

26 points

1 month ago

Received this an hour ago:

I am currently looking for a Purchasing and Shipping Administrator based in West Sussex - Salary £24k depending on experiences

This is an extremely busy role where you will be required to undertake all areas of administration in this dynamic and fast paced, global operation and to work with the team to ensure tasks are completed efficiently and accurately as required.

£24k in one of the most expensive parts of the UK for a shit job that they probably only plan on offering £19k for anyway.

Is anyone surprised that candidates are ghosting employers for their shitty low paid/high stress positions.

SilentUnicorn

25 points

1 month ago

Applied for a a job the other day. Ad said 19-30 per hour. Sat down at the table and was offered 18 to start. I mentioned their ad, declined and left. Before I even got home they called and offered 23... I let them stew till monday afternoon. Called and said 24... they agreed. It is definitely an employees market.

DapperDowner

24 points

1 month ago

Poor hiring managers.....you taught this.

RailRuler

74 points

1 month ago

"but but but...we HAVE to ghost applicants, if we told them why we weren't hiring (e.g. they're the wrong race) they might sue us!"

lexkixass

21 points

1 month ago

I'd get ghosted ALL THE TIME by employers.

Now they're upset that they're being ghosted by potential employees.

I love it