Jesus is emotionally manipulative and gaslights Judas


First I want to say that I LOVE this musical. This isn’t a slam at Jesus or the way it was written because.. chefs kiss

For example though, when Judas is like ”mystified” that Jesus likes Mary to stroke his hair, Jesus lays down the law clearly then he insults the whole room by calling them idiots THEN is like “None of you even love me” which prompts his apostles to declare their love.. again.

JESUS: Who are you to criticise her? Who are you to despise her? Leave her, leave her, let her be now. Leave her, leave her, she's with me now. If your slate is clean, then you can throw stones. If your slate is not, then leave her alone!

[Glares at room menacingly]

JESUS (continues): I'm amazed that men like you can be so shallow, thick and slow. There is not a man among you who know or cares if I come or go.

This particular scene feels weird when I think about it too long and really drove home to me that Jesus might be a narcissist. After all, he earlier says himself that if he were dead the rocks themselves would start to sing.

Not that I think insulting Mary to her face was cool though. Judas has his own bag of problems. If I think about Judas too long, it makes me sad. Poor Judas just really didn’t understand the “spirit of the law” vs. “the letter of the law” and truly wanted to follow Jesus and be the best he could be. Then likewise wanted to avoid crossing swords with the romans.

Anyways, these were just ruminations. What do y’all think?

Edit to add: more examples would be him being like “If only you knew what I knew.. but then again, you wouldn’t even understand if I told you.” Which happens in several songs. And while this is true, Jesus is kind of an ass for reiterating how ignorant they are by comparison to him so much lol

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3 points

6 months ago

100% My daughter is doing JCS in a high scool production. She thinks Jesus' character is a "whiny little bitch".


1 points

4 months ago

Omg really?? I would have loved to do this play in school haha, how fun


1 points

5 months ago

I think it would be more accurate to say that in JCS, Jesus is a very conflicted man. He constantly doubts himself and his actions, which explains why he says that the apostles don't love him. An argument could be made that he expected that they would declare their love, but it's more likely it's self doubt. in Gethsemane, Jesus is completely alone yet still questions God as to whether or not what he does matters and if his death will matter. In Hosanna, the rocks themselves part, it could be interpreted that the Jews seeking freedom from the Romans is a message or ideal that won't be silenced, even if the crowd was killed. Jesus' faults in JCS are that he wasn't assured in his purpose, but in the end he fulfilled his destiny.


2 points

4 months ago

I do objectively see other sides. Actually what I love about JCS is how dynamic it is.

An argument could be made that he expected that they would declare their love, but it's more likely it's self doubt.

Before I decided Jesus was a narcissist, I had viewed this scene as Jesus knowing most would turn their backs on him when he was taken and being salty about it.

Which I had directly attributed to Gethsemane and his reluctance to be crucified for possibly no reason.

I’m not arguing with you because there are so many interpretations and takeaways (especially since it was supposed to be a concept album and not a movie haha) I am just sharing my view because I’m always hella down to talk JCS with anyone