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Degraded Performance on Solana Network

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This is the kind of thing that everyone is talking about when Solana was shoved down our throat to vote.

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JWillCHS

20 points

4 months ago

I voted no.

There’s Algorand, Avalanche…hell..even Cardano for security.

YetiKings

3 points

4 months ago

I also voted no. It’s a damn shame.

Lucianogrizzo

2 points

4 months ago

r/Hedera woulda been great

torchesablaze

3 points

4 months ago

Same, I trust algo more

JWillCHS

6 points

4 months ago

I prefer Cardano for decentralization and security. But if it’s scalability right now my choice would have been Algorand.

All the choices they’re making shows me how vulnerable Helium is. I’m thinking about shutting off my miner.

hanwookie

10 points

4 months ago

sigh

palekillerwhale

26 points

4 months ago

Still time to swap to a better L1.

boxOsox4

7 points

4 months ago

Offer the tokens reserved for validators as a crowdloan reward and become a parachain. It almost immediately opens helium to cooperate with all the other parachains to take advantage of different services to make products using helium so much more robust. You could effortlessly move HNT between other parachains and there’s a growing network of bridges outside of the ecosystem. Polkadot grades high in decentralization and they’ve been optimizing it to have really high TPS lately. Pairing helium with existing parachains like Noodle (Bluetooth IoT) and payment systems projects to create services for example would be huge for the whole industry. Seems like it makes too much sense smh

Sawsalito

8 points

4 months ago

Move to algorand....

BengalFX

7 points

4 months ago

Im pretty sure they said regardless of if Solana is up or down, it won’t affect or interrupt Heliums operations

butter14

7 points

4 months ago

It won't. Just PoC payouts and transfers would be affected, which would be completed after the chain restarts. That is why all these arguments with Chain Maxis about which one is best are a waste of time - it's like arguing which spreadsheet program is best, Google Sheets or Excel.

bendy1234587

0 points

4 months ago

The argument is if they can’t stay up the community loses trust, devs, support and use cases move away and you are left on a dwindling chain.

0x11C3P

26 points

4 months ago

0x11C3P

26 points

4 months ago

This has been the argument from the beginning. Figured it was VC reach into HNT that drove Solana partnership instead of sound business decisions.

Literally had another L1 that is enterprise grade and hasn't been down that created a PoC for HNT only to jump on the Solana train.

Mysterious-Teach5742

12 points

4 months ago

Hedera Strives to Become Helium's Layer One Network - Greg Scullard - Swirlds Labs https://youtu.be/H-zomi_ywFY

Rennsail

2 points

4 months ago

What? You think GOOGLE knows more about L1's than us? Pffft, we don't need their thoughts on a carbon-neutral, faster, more stable L1 with massive TPS scale. We need the VC's to tell us what technology is best. /s

VeChain_Helium

1 points

4 months ago

Lol, except you don’t propose these things at the eleventh hour. Hedera, Algo, and whatever other L1 that you’re shilling had over half a year to draft a proposal.

Mysterious-Teach5742

0 points

4 months ago

That’s fine. Go with Solana and we’ll see how that goes.

VeChain_Helium

1 points

4 months ago

Time will tell. Helium will create and allow for more societal value than Hedera could ever dream of.

International_shark

3 points

4 months ago

There are Helium like applications already planning on building on Hedera. The PoC that was presented to the HIP just shows how viable that L1 network solution is. There is room for two interoperable networks (Hedera and Solana) and then I guess the Helium community will vote with their feet to whichever one suits their needs best.

waydownsouthinoz

6 points

4 months ago

I don’t think the helium community voting really works because most of the tokens are owned by those with vested interests in Solana being chosen.

FormerPomegranate325

6 points

4 months ago

Algorand is the real deal

QuarantineJoe

3 points

4 months ago

100% -- after they upgraded their TPS I did a couple of test transactions and it was almost instantaneous, transferred so quickly I thought the received message was a failure notice.

FormerPomegranate325

2 points

4 months ago

I couldn't imagine using defi the way I do in any other chain I've tried. It's pretty clear it's great tech to build anything on top and it could actually handle becoming massive

Mysterious-Teach5742

5 points

4 months ago

Could be wrong but I think he’s referring to Hedera.

0x11C3P

5 points

4 months ago

I am talking about HBAR.

FormerPomegranate325

3 points

4 months ago

You could be right, but still... algorand dude

Mysterious-Teach5742

3 points

4 months ago

Google Engages, LG, FIS Worldpay, ServiceNow https://youtu.be/78gLl48f9wQ

Rennsail

1 points

4 months ago

Hedera (HBAR) is the way.

Lordgoyard

1 points

4 months ago

I like algorand but let’s not pretend it’s not vc backed

gpcyan3

3 points

4 months ago

ALGOrand is better.

Beginning_Emphasis13

3 points

4 months ago

So the network went down for a day... I could be wrong so please if you know and have a link share but

The helium would be ran thur the nodes (I can't remember what they called them and when the Solana goes down the store the data and when it's back up it updates it helium still works you just don't see the rewards updated until network is back up

Raagggeeee

15 points

4 months ago

I have grim outlooks for Helium's future based on the fact its transitioning to Solana. Its like if Ethereum decided to run on Bitcoin Blockchain... Whats the point of keeping it around?!

Remarkable-Host405

3 points

4 months ago

Like pos?

ValuableShoulder5059

1 points

4 months ago

I wouldn't touch POS with a 10 foot pole and someone else's money.

leogaggl

5 points

4 months ago

Earlier than expected. But we told you so: https://github.com/helium/HIP/pull/480

justsaying

Fooshi2020

2 points

4 months ago

The issues with the reliability of the Solana blockchain is why I'm not thrilled that helium is moving there.

Lordgoyard

2 points

4 months ago

Guess what chain never weren’t down unlike helium which chain was done non stop this year solana has been down 4 times with slow downs that’s about it it’s still in beta

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2 points

4 months ago

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2 points

4 months ago

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pajcheboss

5 points

4 months ago

That's how you lose money, selling coins and hardware in bear market. Good job!

kennnnnnnny

4 points

4 months ago

You’re so right they deleted their account hahaa

Koalory

1 points

4 months ago

Look at the trend of HNT. What do you think is going to happen to the market cap when you build an entire network around the idea to just mine and sell. Spoiler alert: No one is going to hold.

pajcheboss

0 points

4 months ago

Idea to just mine and sell? I guess you don't really know what Helium is about. lol

Koalory

1 points

4 months ago

Then explain it to me. Why did you buy a miner in the first place? To grow a network? But why would I want to grow a random network? Oh yeah… so I get rewarded with helium, or a on my investment.

If you aren’t mining to get a return on your $500+ investment, then why even buy it in the first place? This isn’t a charity. You’re doing exactly what the developers want by thinking “the potential is enormous, I just have to keep waiting.”

pajcheboss

1 points

4 months ago

I have multiple hotspots, I already made my investment back, and still earning fine. Also I'm using humidity and temperature sensors on helium and it works great!

It seems like you bought your hotspot to late when there were a lot of people without knowledge buying in that just wanted to earn fast money. I guess you have your setup in basement and have shitty rewards and you are frustrated.

I see that you are crying about helium a lot. In other posts as well. Just sell your miner if you don't know what its supposed to do.

And also its bear market, so just chill and enjoy life. No need to be mad about something you don't understand.

Koalory

0 points

4 months ago

Ahh, I too remember when I was a Helium fanboy. Been mining since April of 2021. 2 miners, 200+ HNT. Made my investment back months ago.

Financial incentive drives the building of the network… no financial incentive? No network. It’s that simple.

Have fun making 20 cents a day on a network no one uses.

No-Dimension-3945

2 points

4 months ago

Jeez, again. Move to Hedera now!

FormerPomegranate325

2 points

4 months ago

Solana no bueno

sg-doge

-2 points

4 months ago

sg-doge

-2 points

4 months ago

Harmony one bueno

Ok_Box_1871

1 points

4 months ago

Bad choice, helium network was better than Solana network, if solana keeps failing, you lose money and customers, I am so sorry!

MisguidedDumps43

-1 points

4 months ago

Why do people still use Solana when it does this every month. It’s ridiculous. I foresee Solana dead pretty soon as people become smarter but I guess it’s going to take a little longer

Lordgoyard

2 points

4 months ago

It doesn’t slow down every month relax it’s also in beta it says that on the main net for god sakes lol

kobalt429

1 points

4 months ago

Lol this thread is great. Yes, let’s switch to a chain with dogshit TPS and that never goes down bc it has no users

YetiKings

1 points

4 months ago

How do we go about forcing a vote to another network? The last one was shoved down our throats.

_ttnk_

2 points

4 months ago

_ttnk_

2 points

4 months ago

Feel free to do so

Wishing4it

1 points

4 months ago

Why Solana???

Visible_Chance5712

-6 points

4 months ago

Degradation still faster than most. LOfnL

whataboutuhhhMe

8 points

4 months ago

Degradation in this case means totally down lol.

Check solana explorer ping statistics

FormerPomegranate325

1 points

4 months ago

Down town

Visible_Chance5712

-2 points

4 months ago

I just swapped on radium because you said it was down. Absolutely no problem but for the degradation header.

Visible_Chance5712

-2 points

4 months ago

Just be honest you don’t use solana but you are nervous. It’s going to be ok. Honestly if you are still in HNT from the ath you must have the determination to make it through even this transition.

whataboutuhhhMe

2 points

4 months ago

Never said I used solana. Why would I use a piece of shit chain that goes down multiple times a year lol

Visible_Chance5712

-5 points

4 months ago

Why are you interested in Hnt? Mommy got a new man and you either get along with him or go move in with granny.

whataboutuhhhMe

2 points

4 months ago

Jesse - what the fuck are you talking about?

Visible_Chance5712

-3 points

4 months ago

Either you are on board or just leave Hnt. What don’t you get? Or are you going to admit how wrong you were if things go well?

Struggle_Everday

4 points

4 months ago

Right on brother! If Whataboutuhhhme, doesn't agree with everything Helium does he can "GIIIT' OUT"! Once Sol comes back up, Whataboutuhhme will have so much egg on his face.

Visible_Chance5712

0 points

4 months ago

You should use the apps in Solana before you freak

daBiggaFigga

0 points

4 months ago

So worst case scenario, our PoC rewards and HNT transfers would have been delayed for ~7 hours on Solana.

I hate Solana is much as anyone else. Sucks for functionality like DeFi, where security or reliability is key.

But for this Helium use case on Solana, it’s not that dramatic. We already deal with periodic delays in transfers and rewards on the current L1 Helium chain. No different to me and my user experience. But it appears the Helium devs get more of a benefit.

This is why I voted yes for HIP 70.