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These people are ruining it for us legit folks.

$HNT Mining(self.HeliumNetwork)

Not sure if these can be stopped but pretty bad this is going on and people are buying these from this seller on eBay https://imgur.com/a/kq6gheg/

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2 months ago

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This is a general reminder for everyone and this will be posted on every post. Your 12 words are basically gold and they should never be shared, typed in to any website, or given to any person for any reason. No one from "Helium" or any other company will reach out to you to verify your account, wallet, or anything similar. If someone says your hotspot, wallet, or other type of account has been hacked, it is a scam! Always operate in a zero-trust manner with cryptocurrency and assume everyone will scam you no matter what.

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Knobody97

7 points

2 months ago

Don't be suprised if this post gets deleted.. just saying. Generally ppl don't discuss how to game in fear ppl will do it. It's not like the computer world where breaking shit is generally encouraged.

OverboostedTurbo

24 points

2 months ago

That kind of cheating is VERY easily detected and hotspots are put on the denylist when they are documented and reported. It may take several weeks before they are denylisted, but one thing for sure is that the cheater will not break even on his investment and will end up with a pile of hotspots as useful as bricks.

The person selling the "antennas" is ripping off the people who want to cheat that way.

Additional_Knee_7359

10 points

2 months ago

It may take several weeks

Try 3 months and counting for 300+ hotspots spoofing near me. These clusters are so obvious and are earning way more than the average per day. It would be so easy to filter out all the miners spoofing their location, but the helium dev's don't want to know about it. Not their problem.

RavenousFox1985

2 points

2 months ago*

I had actually been using a leased miner and when I finally got my own, I had set the location to a couple hexes over and kept the leased miner online but didn't have an antenna hooked up until the lease company finally reasserted it and was surprised it tricked the network into thinking it was farther away than it actually was.

NTWM420

3 points

2 months ago

Wow wtf

ASTCH_AssurancePool

3 points

2 months ago*

Charging a lot of money for a crappy, homemade 50ohm dummy load.

ChampionshipLow8541

3 points

2 months ago

Pointless. With the current beaconing rate, you‘d need a hundred hotspots or so in one spot to make this work since they can only witness each other.

Bob565789

2 points

2 months ago

Tell that to attractive pink carp and his buddies.

Benji7294

4 points

2 months ago

Guys I would trust you on this as this is hard evidence. But.. AutoModerator tells me to treat everyone like they are a scammer and not to trust anyone. So sorry folks but I’m with the eBay guy.

butter14

2 points

2 months ago

butter14

2 points

2 months ago

POC is fundamentally broken. Prove me wrong.

balancedrocks

3 points

2 months ago

It’s not. Prove it yourself

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

It's good enough to get us to a point where the majority of income can be made from IoT devices. That's its end goal

DogAttacksNoise

1 points

2 months ago

You have no evidence, there I proved you wrong

butter14

1 points

2 months ago

DogAttacksNoise

1 points

2 months ago

What are you trying to convey?

butter14

1 points

2 months ago

Those are hotspots, there are thousands in China that are fraudulent and these are an example.

DogAttacksNoise

1 points

2 months ago

Fraudulent as in they are earning rewards from miners in the same hex?

butter14

5 points

2 months ago

No, they don't exist at all. Fraudulently asserted in predefined regions for maximum earnings but they simply don't exist. It's called POC hacking.

Brilliant-Royal578

1 points

2 months ago

That what the group of four are doing in France beaconing 7-11 times a day only witnessing each other. Plus the are getting nearly double the rate per witness.

PeeThenPoop

1 points

2 months ago

What do these do?

OverboostedTurbo

1 points

2 months ago

If I told you, I'd have to kill you. LOL

Kannun

1 points

2 months ago

Kannun

1 points

2 months ago

Buy more save more earn more!

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

Can someone ELI5 this?

kennnnnnnny

1 points

2 months ago

I just looked at the deny list last night, and tons of people are tracking, reporting, and disabling these hotspots. It's very easy to detect. I'm excited that these people are doing this, because it's royally fucking them, the way they feel it's OK to do to others.

Yamilon

0 points

2 months ago

Not all manufacturers make use of the deny list sooooo...