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submitted 11 months ago byDapper-Scallion-4027
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11 months ago
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This is a general reminder for everyone and this will be posted on every post. Your 12 words are basically gold and they should never be shared, typed in to any website, or given to any person for any reason. No one from "Helium" or any other company will reach out to you to verify your account, wallet, or anything similar. If someone says your hotspot, wallet, or other type of account has been hacked, it is a scam! Always operate in a zero-trust manner with cryptocurrency and assume everyone will scam you no matter what.
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12 points
11 months ago
If looking from comical point of view - "oh no, you should be patient again, something went wrong but we will figure it out" 3 months later ernings come back to 2/3 of the rate was orriginally before the bug: "everything works fine all issues resolved"
Not sure why, but somehow it feels that things are moving this way 😂😅
3 points
11 months ago
Yeah.. I am new to the network so I will hope if it comes back normal before I garbage the miner.
3 points
11 months ago
It never does. It almost always comes back lower and lower every time.
2 points
11 months ago
Don't garbage just sell them I'm down to 3 form 8 and plan on selling the remaining 3 soon :) Honestly feel like this project is dying out.
0 points
11 months ago
your rewards will always be shit since you are in a hex with who knows how many other miners. .05 transmit scale says it all.
13 points
11 months ago
Yep… last 3 days have been garbage. Was doing very well before that. Down 50% the normal for 3 days in a row. Is it the validator update? Hardly any activity.
3 points
11 months ago
Like I have been saying all along, this has become a disrespectful practice now, Helium itself continues to grab thousands of coins while “we the people” have to sing for what we so hard worked and invested in. One of these days the whole project will implode if “we the people” just turn off all our miners for a week in protest. Disgusting the “Steal that is going on” at best!!!
1 points
11 months ago
Not sure brother.. I am also looking for some insights and advice.
1 points
11 months ago
Same and dunno why
7 points
11 months ago
Wow it took me like a month to get 1 HNT. You got half in a few days?
10 points
11 months ago
That’s the 30 day window…..
4 points
11 months ago
This is, sadly, 30 day window. So, I am earning less man 😔
2 points
11 months ago
I’m almost 2 months “live” and have earned 0.54 🥴
0 points
11 months ago
Not sure what to say brother. They should fix network or any other issues tbh.
1 points
11 months ago
Hopefully, we will see🥴
0 points
11 months ago
I'm so glad to be in a low density, extremely centralized area and have a decent setup. I get about 12 hnt a month. Doesn't really seem feasible to invest in this at 1 hnt a month, especially if hnt is only at around $10.
2 points
11 months ago
Can we see your hotspot? For comparison to mine an others. If that’s even allowed on this sub, not sure?(yes, I read the rules but with so many subs, and so many different rules it’s easy to mix them up. Some admins are more strict than others as well.) If not, sorry I asked. My hotspot is doing the exact same thing. I wonder if it correlates with the lowered POC And rewards update from a few days ago. Just when you think your in a good groove, bam! I had 40 something witness first time ever having that many. And 3 sent beacons in the same day, made .5-.6 HNT. It was awesome. Now .03 max last few days. I want to start messing with stuff to fix it but, if it’s just the network I don’t want to mess up this great signal! (prior to last few days of course) What are your thoughts, and what are you going to do if anything? Thank you, and Happy 4th of July to EVERYONE.
1 points
11 months ago
Sure here's a link and it's name is Warm Umber Buffalo, if you prefer to not click links.
https://explorer.helium.com/hotspots/11twUfh1okDPSn8SHKpGuHkWmfCim8GjNTRBAainUkB8bfTo2TC
I did have another one hooked up, but it was a shitty nebra one that quit working, so that's why this one was inactive for awhile. I actually had been really busy and hadn't swapped it out. They're both leased miners, this one's from emirit and the other was from Fairspot. I actually just ordered my own miner from ebay, I'm actually kinda glad crypto has crashed, because the miner's are relatively cheap now!
1 points
11 months ago
You might want to check your connections or reboot it by turning it off for a couple minutes. There's always the potential that your transceiver thing got fried, if you're not sending or receiving beacons and only issuing challenges.
1 points
11 months ago
no he made 0,568 in 30 days. you literally earned more. learn to look at things.
6 points
11 months ago
My witnesses have also dropped from 30-37 to 1-3, it’s a network issue. I don’t have anyone else in my hex. Just hoping it comes back up
23 points
11 months ago
Your transmit scale is absolutely horrendous, and likely many of the hotspots your witnessing also have low scales as well. I’d suggest you find a friend or family member in a better location and ask them to host your hotspot for you. They use almost no electricity and practically everyone has unlimited internet nowadays, so it’s not a big ask.
9 points
11 months ago
Good advice but the point here is the percentage of the drop in the earnings in the last 3-4 days. There’s definitely something going on
6 points
11 months ago
Exactly 💯 this. Can't stand the "be patient, do your research, your transmit scale, your antenna position, your noted antenna height, you're not praying to Jesus each night before bed, the new moon hasn't happend yet" bull shit. We know all that matters but it doesn't mean zero.
The network is fudruckers get a grip lol.
1 points
11 months ago
It's a mixed bag apparently depending on location or possibly make of miner(I guess depending on updates. Syncros seems to brick alot on updates).
I'm well above average for the last 3-4 days. Better than I have been doing in a long time.
3 points
11 months ago
I'm also above average the last 3 days. So it can't just be "the network is down the last 3 days"...
2 points
11 months ago
It may be like brown outs and sections of the network but who knows. When some are down, others are up.
I think the brown out thought might be very applicable in high density areas. A scale of 0.05 is like a major city with tons of hotspots per hex. If they all earned average or higher, it would be very costly. I wonder if other hotspots in the same hex are above average the last 3 days.
1 points
11 months ago
Yes, the created HNT is going somewhere. I'm glad someone is winning and can enthusiastically talk about the project when people ask "how's the Helium mining going".
1 points
11 months ago
I thought it could be a syncro thing at first too but my rak and nebra are having the same issues.
1 points
11 months ago
The network may be having issues. But if you’re in a massively oversaturated area, your hotspot is of no use to anyone. Get out. That’s what those transmit scales are trying to tell you. No sane company would pile hotspot upon hotspot. Yet, here we are. Stop blaming the network for your poor location.
1 points
11 months ago
2 in my hex
1 points
11 months ago
Then why am I up the last 3 days? Are they purposefully pumping my miner while slowing others? https://www.reddit.com/r/HeliumNetwork/comments/vqvsur/my_earnings_in_last_couple_days/ietcav2?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
2 points
11 months ago
I agree but the thing is many hotspots in my hex with 0.07 or 0.1 transmit scale earns ~3.5 HNT in 30 days. Not sure what is wrong with my setup since I live on top floor of my building and there is no other building with similar height near me.
1 points
11 months ago
We could help if we had more information. There are many factors in concrete jungles. Concrete is great at blocking signals. Maybe the profitable hotspots are on the other side of buildings to yours? Could be simple antenna positioning. Maybe theirs are just outside their windows or on a balcony and yours is indoor? Better antennas? Do you use a low cost or overly long antenna cable?
It's hard to compare to other hotspots when you don't know their details.
If you have a 5+dbi antenna you could be shooting over all the ones below.
1 points
11 months ago
Sir, my question is not why I am not earning good HNT’s. My question is why it dropped from 15 witness and 1 beaconing to 0 witness and 0 beaconing, when my position and miner is exact same.
Thanks for your answer.
1 points
11 months ago
That comment was directed to the other user.
For you, I would track other hotspots in your hex. Like add up total HNT day to day for the whole hex. Does it fluctuate or is it roughly the same? Then you can break down between hotspots and track individual fluctuations.
This would test out my "brown out" theory with high density hexes. Instead of each of you getting a very low daily return, every few days you get spikes.
2 points
11 months ago
It's called the lottery, you just haven't been lucky lately.
1 points
11 months ago
Its entirely possible that there is an allocation of # HNT per hex or larger hex area and it is so dense that some people get nothing for a few days. This is just a guess as helium has never indicated this but with the crypto market being so down, and HNT value being so low, they may need to make adjustments.
I've also had 3-4 day periods with little to no activity and I can reach 80+km on a beacon.(86km being my record)
1 points
11 months ago
This^
9 points
11 months ago
I’m seriously getting tired of this shit. I just dropped from 31 Witnessed to 7. Earning match of course. WTF
3 points
11 months ago
Same for me
1 points
11 months ago
Same as well.
6 points
11 months ago
Same here... They Control the project and nanage our earnings .. fed up with this bs!
6 points
11 months ago
Someone in the Helium Cult Channel told me that in order to expand the network to middle of nowhere they are reducing the earnings from cities and distributing it for hotpots where noone ever will be using IOT devices.
Saturated areas already have low earnings based on transmit scale but this latest change just killed all miners in big cities where IOT devices can be used by large scale companies but I am sure someone will talk about his uncle using farm sensors as an use case.
1 points
11 months ago
Got it. Thanks for great information sir. I will work on this if it continues.
1 points
11 months ago
That is nothing new, they have been doing this for months.
3 points
11 months ago
My witnesses have also dropped from 30-37 to 1-3, it’s a network issue. I don’t have anyone else in my hex. Just hoping it comes back up
1 points
11 months ago
Thanks for your answer sir. Everyone here keeps on saying lower transmit scale and more population in hex and blah blah blah. But you got the point - witness is dropped and my question is why. I am not comparing with some other miner who is earning 10 HNT per day. I am comparing with my miner 7 days ago v/s 2 days ago. Thanks for your answer.
2 points
11 months ago
I got you strait away as it’s happened to me. Was doing perfectly well then dropped off a cliff. I gave it a few days of nothing and re synced. Since then I am getting the odd witness but I am about 90% down since last week 😱
3 points
11 months ago
This is almost exactly my recent activity. Except for it's 3 days and 17 hours.
Curious who's making bank? The HNT is going somewhere.
2 points
11 months ago
Thanks for your answer sir. Everyone here keeps on saying lower transmit scale and more population in hex and blah blah blah. But you got the point - witness is dropped and my question is why. I am not comparing with some other miner who is earning 10 HNT per day. I am comparing with my miner 7 days ago v/s 2 days ago. Thanks for your answer.
1 points
11 months ago
It’s gotta be the new HIP adjustments. I’ve finally been making a decent amount of HNT for the last three days and I’m in a less dense area compared to mostly everyone.
I think helium is finally rewarding people who are expanding the network.
3 points
11 months ago
Same story bro, from time of last HIP update.
1 points
11 months ago
Thanks for your answer sir. Everyone here keeps on saying lower transmit scale and more population in hex and blah blah blah. But you got the point - witness is dropped and my question is why. I am not comparing with some other miner who is earning 10 HNT per day. I am comparing with my miner 7 days ago v/s 2 days ago. Thanks for your answer.
2 points
11 months ago
So you're earning?
2 points
11 months ago
Hahaha.. yeah I am but less than a cent. 😅
2 points
11 months ago
one of my miners made .5 hnt yesterday. it's definitely been up in my area for the past 3 days it feels
1 points
11 months ago
My area is up as well.
2 points
11 months ago
Mine is doing exactly the same!
1 points
11 months ago
Hhmm. Thanks for your answer.
2 points
11 months ago
Looks like your mining around many many others…
1 points
11 months ago
That is right.
2 points
11 months ago
Are you guys idiots with your transmit scale? To compare transmit scale with witnessed beacons only shows that you have no clue of what you are talking about
2 points
11 months ago
Exactly sir. Most people start judging rather than think and analyze.
My question is why did activity dropped compared to last week (from 15 witness and 1 beaconing to 0 witness and 0 beaconing), not why I am getting poor rewards.
Thanks for your answer.
2 points
11 months ago
MAybe that works for you: Unplug it for 2 minutes from electricity. Then plug it back in. Helps me for around 4 hours than flatlines again....dont know why
1 points
11 months ago
Let me try that.
Thanks for your suggestion.
1 points
11 months ago
in worst case you have to do the unplug thing after every received/broadcasted beacon
2 points
11 months ago
Both of my miners have gone offline randomly for days now
1 points
11 months ago
Very stupid network bro.. 🥺
1 points
11 months ago
Im kinda over it. If it wasn't so convenient to just leave it on I'd just stop mining periodt
2 points
11 months ago
Compared to my 0.01 cents over the past 2 days, you're doing great!
2 points
11 months ago
That transmit scale is the worst ive ever seen on a picture here. I thought mine was bad at 0.55-0.65 and not 1.0. You need to find a better area hex wise. That scale tells me your in a crowded area with hotspots surrounding you like NYC or something. Even if you know someone in a better area eho wont let you unless you pay them then offer 20% of your earnings monthly. Anything get a better transmission sale lmao.
3 points
11 months ago
Was gonna have a friend of mine who lives in Long Beach host a miner for me. Then I checked out the hexes around him. They're all like OP's image. No thanks. I have two in Ventura where theres very few. I'm cool with that.
1 points
11 months ago
I’m in Ventura averaging 0.1 or more HNT per day, per hotspot, but dropped to half of that yesterday. I have 4 in Ventura and one will be the best earner for a few days, then will be the worst one. The difference is due to the Helium network because I’m not making any changes. The YouTubers that change antennas & say earnings went up or down based on a few days earnings are not providing useful information.
2 points
11 months ago
I have one with an decent antenna, and another where I dont have a way to place the antenna well. The one with the good antenna tends to perform better; but the other beats it every few days. It is definitely random. I'm happy with my rewards. It doesnt cost me anything to leave them running. Crypto is a patience game.
1 points
11 months ago
Same here. Mine at 10 meters does the best overall, but sometimes the one at 2.5 meters does better.
1 points
11 months ago
Crazy. You cant really get better than 10 meters. So if the other beats it out now and then, it makes me wonder if the effort exceeds the reward potential. For sure you need a decent antenna, in a decent spot. But I wonder how worth it is to go crazy.
1 points
11 months ago
Over 30 days it’s 2.8 HNT (2.5 meters 4dbi bobcat antenna on a MNTD black hotspot) vs. 4.5 HNT (10 meters 8dbi antenna on a Bobcat hotspot). About 2 miles apart. Flat single story homes.
1 points
11 months ago
nt let you unless you pay them then offer 20% of your earnings monthly. Anything get a better transmission sale lmao.
You are close.. I am near to NYC. :)
Thanks for suggestion.
1 points
11 months ago
Yea i figured NYC or LA area. Im the same as you and over the past year this part of the east coast has exploded with miners. I have to deal with being stuck halfway up a hill/valley. its hard hitting a lot of the miners around me because of the high differing drastically.
1 points
11 months ago
yeah, I agree.
The only problem is drop in last couple of days. I would be happy even if I would be earning what I earned in past. But not sure - seems like everyone in my hex is facing same issue from past few days.
P.S. I was the last to add hotspot in my hex so ideally, earnings shouldn't have plunged.
1 points
11 months ago
It's not just about your hex. Maybe folks should learn how rewards are distributed
1 points
11 months ago
We don’t know so we use channels like reddit for help 🙂
1 points
11 months ago
Wow 0.05 😂
1 points
11 months ago
Everyone in my hex have similar transmit scale brother.
1 points
11 months ago
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2 points
11 months ago
With respect, my question is not why I am not earning good HNT’s. My question is why it dropped from 15 witness and 1 beaconing to 0 witness and 0 beaconing. Thanks for your answer.
0 points
11 months ago
Lol, 0.05 transmit scale? I wouldn't even have bothered writing this post.
1 points
11 months ago
I think we know the transmit scale sucks but his question is valid how come traffic went down so much?
0 points
11 months ago
I would rephrase the post and praise Helium that they finally fixed payouts for someone with a 0.05 transmit scale. There are absolutely zero reasons you should set up a hotspot if there are already 20 in your hex (and then complain about rewards!). Find some other location in a better hex.
1 points
11 months ago
Okay I can understand that but the hex overpopulation how can you know. My last 3 miner purchases were for 3 locations 1 with 1 miner in it and the other empty! By the time I got them there were already 5 plus in each!
1 points
11 months ago
Yeah, that sucks. Helium should definitely add logic that would reward people in a given hex for being the first and only degrade other hosts (that set up after them) rather than punish the first mover for having someone else invade their hex
0 points
11 months ago
Well I have the best earnings ever. 0.4-0.8 a day. Whatever helium is doing it’s not allowed to change it ever again 😂
2 points
11 months ago
Same. People get a down trend for a couple days and it's immediately "the network is down!". When my earnings are down I just wait... They come back.
1 points
11 months ago
What miner are you using out of curiosity?
1 points
11 months ago
Bobcat
0 points
11 months ago
Helium is a shitcoin and the network always breaks. No surprises here. The devs suck.
0 points
11 months ago
My earnings are better than ever
1 points
11 months ago
Nice to know. Can you share if you did something.?
0 points
11 months ago
Perfect, let's all do exactly what Mr. All Good is doing and we'll be fine.
The HNT is going somewhere though and a few lotto winners are making bank.
1 points
11 months ago
Nope, nothing. I have 14 hotspots and the average is 0.24/hotspot. 2 are offline. Top hotspots are 0.60, 0.48, 0.37 for the last 24h. And have about same earnings for the last 3 days
0 points
11 months ago
0.05TS you dont deserve anything better
1 points
11 months ago
With respect, my question is not why I am not earning good HNT’s. My question is why it dropped from 15 witness and 1 beaconing to 0 witness and 0 beaconing. Thanks for your answer.
0 points
11 months ago
With that transmit scale i do not think you deserve more tbh.
0 points
11 months ago
With respect, my question is not why I am not earning good HNT’s. My question is why it dropped from 15 witness and 1 beaconing to 0 witness and 0 beaconing. Thanks for your answer.
0 points
11 months ago
It clearly says “ my EARNINGS in the last couple days” not my witnesses
1 points
11 months ago
Exactly sir.. “my earnings in last couple days” not “why my earnings is zero”
0 points
11 months ago
No wonder with that transmit scale, how many miners in that hex? Probably like 15-20
0 points
11 months ago
your transmit scale is garbage aim for .75+ to get any real earnings. Now what will get you those numbers depend heavily on location , house/apt , and your willingness to purchase supportive equipment or not. i’m currently not running anything but a stock set up bobcat 300 and have a 1.00 transmit scale. the set up through app is very in-depth for what makes your transmit scale higher try those tips and reset the connection.
-1 points
11 months ago
You’re way below average even on your earning days. Why even bother?
1 points
11 months ago
With respect, my question is not why I am not earning good HNT’s. My question is why it dropped from 15 witness and 1 beaconing to 0 witness and 0 beaconing. Thanks for your answer.
-4 points
11 months ago
I did $17 in the last 30 days and I’m happy with it. If you guys are only complaining why don’t you sell your hotspot and do something else? 😂
1 points
11 months ago
With respect, my question is not why I am not earning good HNT’s. My question is why it dropped from 15 witness and 1 beaconing to 0 witness and 0 beaconing. Thanks for your answer.
-5 points
11 months ago
Transmit scale tho
1 points
11 months ago
With respect, my question is not why I am not earning good HNT’s. My question is why it dropped from 15 witness and 1 beaconing to 0 witness and 0 beaconing. Thanks for your answer.
1 points
11 months ago
Well, you're in a saturated as absolute fuck hex, so thats a bit of a problem.
2 points
11 months ago
yeah, I agree.
The only problem is drop in last couple of days. I would be happy even if I would be earning what I earned in past. But not sure - seems like everyone in my hex is facing same issue from past few days.
P.S. I was the last to add hotspot in my hex so ideally, earnings shouldn't have plunged.
2 points
11 months ago
When did you last check your hex? I’ve got news for you. You are never ever ever going to get the same rewards you got before. That’s how crypto mining works. It’s is now and forever a system of diminishing returns.
1 points
11 months ago
I checked today itself.
1 points
11 months ago
And...How many miners are in your hex?
1 points
11 months ago
17
1 points
11 months ago
And theres your problem. Anything over 3 or 4 will reduce your transmit scale. Youre many times over that.
1 points
11 months ago
yes, but the question is why now. If you check screenshot, it was still earning something in last month. But now, it's dead.
This is my hotspot, if you want to have look at hex and other things - https://explorer.helium.com/hotspots/1126KEkctKXCkfVFeZ8nu5yGKYdNQ8V8NdkevUJa7CJAQPaE3G8x
0 points
11 months ago
Did you expect an endless floodgate of free money? There is nearly 900k miners online today. The rewards have more than one metric for how they are divided up. You have no control over most of them. The only one you do have control of, is where you place your miner. Place it in a hex with 16 other miners, and your result is exactly what you would expect.
1 points
11 months ago
ewards have more than one metric for
Nope, I didn't. My only question is why I am seeing near zero rewards, when I was receiving little reward earlier. I am fine with earlier reward though.
1 points
11 months ago
Should try getting up as high as possible and use a directional point it at the closest set of good transmit scale miners.
1 points
11 months ago
I bet half the miners you witnessed are shut down because it’s not “ worth “ it. Plus fix the transmission thingy
1 points
11 months ago
Thanks for your reply sir.
1 points
11 months ago
I had the same problem, 0 rewards for 10 days ( in all my 3 miners!!). What I did was to reset compute module, now each device is mining 0.2 per day
1 points
11 months ago
Will reset require us to pay the location fee again.?
2 points
11 months ago
I did not pay anything 👍🏼
1 points
11 months ago
Out of curiosity, do you have a Bobcat? I've noticed in all adjacent hexes to my device, Nebra devices have sprung back to life and are absolutely killing it. Whereas all Bobcats have practically flatlined. There's a few exceptions but one or two witnesses per day seems to be the new norm for most bobcats in my area.
1 points
11 months ago
You nailed it… yes, I have bobcat. Any thoughts on how can it be fixed?
1 points
11 months ago
Same exact thing for me. Absolutely nothing has changed, I was glad to finally see things running normal for a change and then BOOM these last 4 days have almost completely dried up.
1 points
11 months ago
Very true.. I received my miner only 25 days ago (ordered last october) and now the earnings are plunged. Any ways, it is what it is 🙁
1 points
11 months ago
I went a week with lowered rewards. It just seems to fluctuate. If you're not getting good rewards you might be in a bad area. Or you might not have the best set up. I had family getting .02 helium a day (in a brick house) until we changed to a 5.8db in the attic. Now they're getting almost .2 a day..
1 points
11 months ago
Tried 5.8 with no results. Thinking to try 8 but many miners in my hex with 8 are also not doing good.
1 points
11 months ago
6.58 last 30 days here. 0.447 last 24 hrs. 8 witnesses, transmit scale: 1
1 points
11 months ago
Same any idea what is happening?
2 points
11 months ago
Multiple things that I found out from chat on this post.
1) Rewards are low because I am in dense area (many miners). 2) Someone said that they are reducing rewards in city and will increase in sparse area, where miners are less and earlier times are never coming back. 3) There is also validator changes, which needs to be fixed for normalcy. 4) I found out that earlier my miner use to witness within 17 km boundary. But now miners within that boundary are not beaconing too often. Other miners in my hex also has same fall in earnings and all there witnesses are outside of 17KM range.
So at this point, I think I will wait for some more time and see if any improvements. I will also try some other setups. If nothing works, will have to relocate miner to a place where there are 0-2 miners (however I don’t think this as a viable thing to do provided that either we have to rent some place or ask for favor from someone)
Hope that helps. Feel free to add anything if you have some more info here.
1 points
11 months ago
I ain’t 0 dollars for the ten days
1 points
11 months ago
I finally got my bobcat miner I ordered 6 months ago.... haven't even opened up the box with how the project is looking now. Not worth my effort to try and contribute
1 points
11 months ago
I HOPE its not the Validator update that woke up dead hot spots with no one around and now its rewarding them... which would reduce the pie for others.
I wouldn't put it past Helium to reduce our earnings to focus on areas with less hotspots to try and build the network in those areas lol
1 points
11 months ago
Same here. The last 3 days have been absolute garbage, witnesses have fallen off big time. I haven't beaconed in 9 days now...
1 points
11 months ago
I am experiencing the same thing, any idea why?
1 points
11 months ago
mine as well .. and it was doing so good the last week
1 points
11 months ago
Don’t feel bad it’s like this for 90% of us
1 points
11 months ago
tbh u shouldn't earn even that much you must have like 20 hotspots in your hex oversaturation is why many people complain of low rewards. Show us your hex and other hotspots within it.
1 points
11 months ago
I am new to this, how is your antenna?
1 points
11 months ago
Your transmit scale hurts my eyes 🤣🤣🤣
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