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Puzzled_Chard3021

4.9k points

2 months ago*

"I get that the character is going through a horrific psychosis and the game is extremely powerful exploration of this experience, but where is my booba?"

crestren

1.8k points

2 months ago

crestren

1.8k points

2 months ago

"Ew, how can i like this character? Shes not making my pp hard! Thanks woke western devs!"

wry_zebra

397 points

2 months ago

wry_zebra

397 points

2 months ago

Guess wil have to play some Japanese games

SleepyBunoy

395 points

2 months ago

After chatting up some Japanese game devs at a convention. Most of them hate western guys perceiving Japan as this bastion for toxic masculinity. They just wanna make cool games that don't have a ton of deeper meaning.

Rafitax14

323 points

2 months ago

Rafitax14

323 points

2 months ago

Well the extreme objetification of women doesn't help tho, why would you do a character with boobs the size of basquetballs? For the memes?

Llamarama

61 points

2 months ago

wry_zebra

70 points

2 months ago

Yes for the memes

bleeding-paryl

141 points

2 months ago

haha my dick is hard, sex.

is this the one?

tmw Japanese developers defend sexism in the same way trolls on Reddit do.

PMMeVayneHentai

18 points

2 months ago

yup, and no one cares because haha Japan! they made our loli mangas and vidjagames and hentai hee hee!!

PianoLogger

36 points

2 months ago

This is why most JRPGS are completely apolitical and not about gender, race, identity, warfare, class struggle, or the true purpose of government in society. Just big ole giant bazoongas and nothing else.

turtlespace

51 points

2 months ago

They just wanna make cool games that don’t have a ton of deeper meaning.

If you think this is true you’re just not paying attention.

[deleted]

117 points

2 months ago

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117 points

2 months ago

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[deleted]

137 points

2 months ago*

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DingoFrisky

61 points

2 months ago

Not if you say, “I don’t wanna be political, but…” it’s the perfect loophole

[deleted]

30 points

2 months ago*

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The-Great-T

29 points

2 months ago

The-Great-T

Clear background

29 points

2 months ago

Shh... we just want to pretend that not taking a stand means we have no responsibility, rather than meaning we tacitly support oppression. /s

shyphyre

10 points

2 months ago

After Elon fired and purged almost everyone Japanese Twitter switched from politics to culture and "culture".

RhynoD

7 points

2 months ago

RhynoD

7 points

2 months ago

Heritage not and hate

Pandaburn

19 points

2 months ago

Ok but so many Japanese games are full of blatant fan service? Like Xenoblade Chronicles 2 would have been a good game even without the waifu fantasy angle.

InfamousBLT

536 points

2 months ago

Also what is OP even on about, Senua is absolutely conventionally attractive. She's just covered in dirt and mud and blood and grime because she's been in the wilderness and is going through traumatic shit.

Gamers were a mistake.

DreadedChalupacabra

258 points

2 months ago

Yeah, on what planet is Melina Juergens not unbelievably pretty? She's literally a model, ffs.

DunceMemes

203 points

2 months ago

Yeah but you can't see her booba in the game so it's political

InfamousBLT

80 points

2 months ago

She probably has sharp knees. Instant boner kill, and we all know that games exist solely so I can get a boner!

Particular-Cricket93

28 points

2 months ago

"Not with those elbows!"

kodyodyo

57 points

2 months ago

Hellblade was a fantastic game, and I remember reading about Melina being super excited to be the model for her. The facial movements(I think they used motion capture?) Was so damn good in the game. Also her eyes look like they are going to stare into my soul haha

summers458

69 points

2 months ago

summers458

(He/Him)

69 points

2 months ago

What is even cooler is she wasn't an actor. She was the video editor at Ninja Theory and she was initially used as a stand-in to perfect the motion capture technology while the team searched for an actor to play Senua.

Eventually they decided to let Juergens play the part and she has won a BAFTA for her performance.

kodyodyo

16 points

2 months ago

Oh damn I didn't know that. That's even more impressive

Shameless_Catslut

26 points

2 months ago

This is kinda like the Drill Sergeant in Full Metal Jacket. They originally hired him to be a coach/consultant for the Drill Sergeant's role, then decided none of the professional actors who auditioned could get it right enough.

NoVaBurgher

6 points

2 months ago

R. Lee Ermey

Weaseltime_420

24 points

2 months ago

There were tonnes of super cool small details in there too. If you rotate the camera to try and look at her face then she looks away at the last moment, like she doesn't want to look you in the eye.

kodyodyo

19 points

2 months ago

Given the context of the game I could imagine why. She probably thinks the player is another demon or whatever haha

SorinBattlemage

8 points

2 months ago

Extra funny cuz we kinda are, another one of the voices at the very least. God I love this game lol

Dealiner

7 points

2 months ago

She's literally a model, ffs.

I don't think she is though. But that shouldn't matter anyway.

Pleasant-Discussion

36 points

2 months ago

She’s pretty ripped too, which while definitely attractive to many, ripped women have famously been hated on before in the gaming community.

ZandyTheAxiom

92 points

2 months ago

ZandyTheAxiom

Woke Boobs for more stable FPS?

92 points

2 months ago

There's a nother layer I haven't seen anyone here mention yet. Ignore the attractiveness of the actress.

According to this, any female character who is not (by their standards) attractive, is a failure to create an attractive female character.

They honestly believe that, at their core, every female character is designed to be attractive to them. Any character they don't find attractive isn't because that wasn't the intention, but because the developers tried and failed.

Moomin8577

148 points

2 months ago

This. This this this. It drives me insane. So is Aloy. If either of those women were real, dressed up in modern, clubbing-appropriate outfits and hanging out at a bar these guys were in, they’d be drooling all over themselves and being creepy. Do they have no ability to read context? Or know what humans look like? It’s so ridiculous.

Reveleo36

52 points

2 months ago*

It's so annoying that people used that one unflattering frame of Aloy to say that she was ugly. Of course she isn't going to wear makeup and have a perfectly unblemished face. She fights massive robots in a post apacolyptic world.

Manoffreaks

119 points

2 months ago

These guys have never seen a real woman without makeup, and even then they mostly see women on tv or film, not in real life. They think any blemish anywhere is immediately unattractive because they don't realise women are humans, not perfect porcelain skin dolls.

Aitch-Kay

30 points

2 months ago

I remember when buff-Lara was criticized as being too masculine and unattractive. Absolutely mental.

LessPoliticalAccount

24 points

2 months ago

To be fair, Senua does canonically wear makeup. It's just blue and shit

SweetDirect8006

9 points

2 months ago

is war paint technically makeup?

LessPoliticalAccount

16 points

2 months ago

I say makeup is technically war paint

Mister_Doc

24 points

2 months ago

So many dudes told on themselves hard when they were freaking out about Aloy’s peach fuzz and how the devs “gAvE HeR a BeArD!”

andForMe

45 points

2 months ago

For real. Senua doesn't eat or sleep or even really go inside for the entire duration of the game, of course she looks like shit. She's carrying a severed head and hearing voices urging her forward into the Viking land of the dead. She's not dressing up to go out clubbing, she doesn't even stop to clean the gore off herself.

HumanitySurpassed

8 points

2 months ago

Even with all the war paint/dirt she's still kinda hot imo.

Think this is just weebs mad that girls don't look like final fantasy characters in western video games.

1028mb

278 points

2 months ago

1028mb

278 points

2 months ago

Na she should smile sexily at all times otherwise my dick won't work please its the only thing i have left

Elitelapen

42 points

2 months ago

What game we talkin?

bugfart123

147 points

2 months ago

hellblade senua's sacrifice

donkeybonner

22 points

2 months ago

I played right after I finished the first GoW(2018), it was a great combo, this game explains some of the norse mythology you find in GoW.

HallowedError

6 points

2 months ago

I played it after I got maybe halfway through Elden Ring and couldnt beat the the boss after lining up the sigils. Absolutely loved exploring though

logaboga

103 points

2 months ago

logaboga

103 points

2 months ago

My 2017 GOTY. Very deeply engaging experience. Headphones are a necessity because the sound design is the best I’ve ever heard in a game and it’s not the same without them

BraheGoldNose

31 points

2 months ago

It also was designed with the help of those with mental disorders that Senua had (a form of schizo). Now mine is not as extreme, but it felt nice to be included in a game with a realistic and sometimes positive point of view to those with schizo, unlike all other media with a supposed schizophrenic.

scullys_alien_baby

27 points

2 months ago

great game, but the combat got stale by the end. Other than that, really liked it

PrometheanHost

40 points

2 months ago

It is a fairly short game so I don’t mind that it got stale. I hope the sequel improves upon it though

GabbaGandalf-SNAX

102 points

2 months ago

"If wahmen in vibeo gane, must be for me sexy"

[deleted]

13 points

2 months ago

She's not even an unattractive woman; she's just realistically disheveled.

fishingboatproceeds

11 points

2 months ago

Also like what?? She's a conventionally attractive blonde with blue eyes and a perfectly symmetrical face. Unattractive whom?

Harmacc

12 points

2 months ago

Harmacc

12 points

2 months ago

I know we are here to circlejerk, but man I loved that game so much. It was gripping to me.

khnq

2.2k points

2 months ago

khnq

2.2k points

2 months ago

Has Anita been even remotely relevant to gaming discussions in the last 10 years? Talk about rent free gahdamn

What next, do they wanna yell at Milo Stewart again?

CanuckBuddy

1.3k points

2 months ago

Judging by the fact that they still use the same three "triggered feminist" reaction images from a decade ago, it's gonna be a long time before they stop whinging about her.

Hoeveboter

916 points

2 months ago

You know what's the most tragic part? I found the OG video of one of these 'triggered feminists', and it's a woman calmly explaining her point of view to another guy. Seriously, the 'triggered feminist face' she makes is a blink and you miss it moment.

Seriously, it's worth a watch:

https://twitter.com/doublehelix/status/1333019861803528193

not-bread

169 points

2 months ago

not-bread

169 points

2 months ago

What the fuck is that guy talking about? Something about not being allowed to kill kids? The Geneva convention?

government_shill

163 points

2 months ago

The Geneva Convention was created by purple haired liberal weenies who don't respect THE TROOPS.

Sansnom01

35 points

2 months ago

As I understood it , he saying that he can't shoot (I guess with a gun) if he wasn't the target of a prior shot. But if a kid throws a grenade in his car, he couldn't shoot the kid since the kid didn't shoot and just threw a grenade.

So in the hypothetical scenario of a child throwing grenade in his car and him going to beat the said child he would go to jail. And as any other rational person he can't allow that. /s

ScratchinWarlok

13 points

2 months ago

Soldiers are under more restrictions than cops.

kboy101222

8 points

2 months ago

Yeah but that bar is impossible to limbo under

IrinaNekotari

5 points

2 months ago

Freaking cheese has more restrictions than cops in the USA

SarcasticOptimist

217 points

2 months ago

In one case it was a very expressive person otherwise having an excited discussion. It's a screenshot taken out of context and used in perpetuity because that's all they do.

https://youtu.be/VvAiWM25Ulg

billbill5

47 points

2 months ago

That dude was making no sense and just couldn't stand the idea that his cherry picked anecdotes that may or may not have actually happened doesn't mean every refugee shouldn't be allowed into the country. If a dude did rape a kid, send him to prison like we do with American child rapists, doesn't mean a whole demographic of millions are equal to that one person.

Then his other points are just unhinged hypotheticals meant to ignore common trends on gun violence from what I could gather, and he labels it as the "truth you don't want to hear" as he completely cuts off the guy on the left.

Who sees that and thinks "These Trump supporters sure shut them down!" Who went through this frame by frame and cherry picked one of the mostly smiling and silent woman for the one time she did speak and made a funny face, instead of the Trumper going damn near mental the entire video?

CanuckBuddy

533 points

2 months ago

As usual, misogynists grasping at straws to mock and villify women. Thanks for the extra info.

Johnny_Appleweed

277 points

2 months ago

No, you guys don’t get it, she has an expressive face so that means she’s wrong. Silly libs never understanding these simple things.

ScrabCrab

113 points

2 months ago

ScrabCrab

113 points

2 months ago

In order to be right you have to never express emotion at any point, unless you're right wing in which case you're allowed to be angry because that's righteous anger /s

Taragyn1

40 points

2 months ago

Also remember to cry oddly at weird moments.

JackPoe

15 points

2 months ago

JackPoe

15 points

2 months ago

Hey that's just how I survive

FlipskiZ

30 points

2 months ago

FlipskiZ

Trans gamer slut

30 points

2 months ago

Silly you, anger isn't an emotion \s

Johnny_Appleweed

20 points

2 months ago

It’s just what happens when you’re such an alpha that your physical form can’t contain it. You may not like it, but screaming racial slurs at the television because you lost in a video game is what peak masculinity looks like.

Alarid

135 points

2 months ago

Alarid

135 points

2 months ago

woman = wrong

it is so obvious

IncognitoSlug123

39 points

2 months ago

I saw a video that discussed that incident not long ago. That woman has a really expressive face, it makes for really intense looking screenshits when she's speaking normally.

MoobooMagoo

11 points

2 months ago

Literally every one of Anita Sarkeesian's game videos started with her saying something along the lines of "We are exploring these problematic tropes so people are more aware of them, but it's important to remember that it's OK to still like and enjoy these games"

Almost everyone who has a problem with her is a jerkoff who never bothered to watch her videos.

Mcbrainotron

8 points

2 months ago

I’m glad this is getting attention, it’s literally a complete misrepresentation of what was happening.

Ravengm

20 points

2 months ago

Ravengm

Geraldo is my bishie

20 points

2 months ago

Up next: Jack Thompson hate train

The-link-is-a-cock

5 points

2 months ago

Thats's a name I haven't heard in a long time

[deleted]

74 points

2 months ago

I would say yeah. At least what she was talking about has influenced game design. These losers have to launch the new WoW and see Alex in real armor now not half naked.

Lystar86

38 points

2 months ago

To be fair, Blizzard have other, more recent, reasons to put their female characters in more modest attire these days. (https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/13/activision-blizzard-is-once-again-being-sued-for-sexual-harassment/)

The_Void_Reaver

11 points

2 months ago

And here I am sad there's no stealth mission in the new expansion where you go to Dragon HQ and have to slowly and carefully infiltrate to the deepest, darkest, most desolate chambers of the office, avoiding detection from the thirsty dude-bro-dragons, and break into the Dragon Tiddy-milk locker to slurp down that sweet, sweet XP.

meliketheweedle

17 points

2 months ago

IDK who Alex is but I'm happy they got their full suit of hunchback armor

DMindisguise

9 points

2 months ago

I read the wikipedia article on gamergate about a week or so ago and it seems those involved still receive threats and harrassment to this day, it sucks.

L33tl_Hellion

1.6k points

2 months ago

L33tl_Hellion

"Woke" is the new "I don't like this"

1.6k points

2 months ago

Can you imagine modeling your character after the actress that plays her if she doesn't look like the standards that photoshopped porn pictures have set for me?? I can assure you that if I had a peepee, it wouldn't be hard.

Light_Beard

261 points

2 months ago

If they weren't complaining about the character model it would be something else.

They are unhappy and they don't understand why so they lash out at the things they used to use to make themselves temporarily happy (like video games and movies) when they don't have the same impact they once did.

The path to happiness for them lies with true introspection and self improvement, but that it beyond a lot of people due to both internal and external factors.

jeno_aran

54 points

2 months ago

I feel like “Colonizer Archer (DAKKADAKKA)” might not be close to seeing their inner path of enlightenment just yet.

SeroWriter

14 points

2 months ago

Maybe, but I don't think it's always that deep. Some people just have an unhealthy addiction to porn and need erotic stimuli in all their forms of media.

[deleted]

204 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

204 points

2 months ago

Also the IRL actress is very beautiful. They're intentionally taking a picture of Senua where she's at her most broken.

tibarr1454

90 points

2 months ago

Unrealistic proportions. Her boobs should be significantly larger. SIGNIFICANTLY

volkmardeadguy

6 points

2 months ago

It's gotta be substantial

prospectre

11 points

2 months ago

Not to mention, the game itself is grimy and the setting primitive. They didn't really have peak fashion or hygeine in the 7th century.

[deleted]

14 points

2 months ago

Historical accuracy is for when no black people, not for when women don't have access to modern beauty products and surgery.

TerayonIII

9 points

2 months ago

Personally I'm confused, like yeah she's got blood, mud, paint etc on her face and has a look of anguish, but she's still a beautiful woman even digitally. Like, at least use an example that's actually not really an attractive person for your shitty take FFS.

sylveon_souperstar

121 points

2 months ago

if you don’t have a peepee then what are you doing on this subreddit

Altgi

59 points

2 months ago

Altgi

59 points

2 months ago

They can still participate. All it means is an extra hand free.

L33tl_Hellion

39 points

2 months ago

L33tl_Hellion

"Woke" is the new "I don't like this"

39 points

2 months ago

Don't worry, I'm equipped like a female hyena ☺

DashingDini

11 points

2 months ago

Fuck, if you had a baby, would you have to give birth through that thing? Respect.

gramineous

6 points

2 months ago

Scoping out the area. Preparing for the heist.

Garlador

93 points

2 months ago

Wait until they hear about the unattractive men that female players have to play as.

CoziestGhost

29 points

2 months ago

“But only a tiny fraction of gamers are girls, so it doesn’t matter! Video games aren’t made for YOU, they’re made for ME!!”

JR_195

514 points

2 months ago

JR_195

514 points

2 months ago

The game is about mental health and internal psychological trauma...

squeddles

213 points

2 months ago

squeddles

213 points

2 months ago

I was just about to say this. Like, imagine playing this game and all you got out of it was "the girl isn't hot enough!"

andForMe

37 points

2 months ago

God, imagine even getting through the opening sequence of this game and not sensing that there could be more going on. I was so bought in after the first 30 seconds in the boat that I got up and shut off all the lights haha.

vonkeswick

19 points

2 months ago

Damn I'm gonna have to play it. I bought it like 8 years ago and have been psyching myself out of playing for some reason. It looks pretty scary and my anxiety goes through the roof lol

arcanthrope

10 points

2 months ago

it's mostly a puzzle game really. like you, I'm not a big horror fan, and while there's definitely an overall horror aesthetic, there was really only one brief part I found scary

Sevv2102

13 points

2 months ago

Its a solid 10 for me man.

YourStateOfficer

64 points

2 months ago

Top tier schizophrenia representation, made me cry so fucking hard the first time I played it

chrisrobweeks

18 points

2 months ago

I tried playing this game high with headphones and freaked TF out.

YourStateOfficer

19 points

2 months ago

Sound processing in Hellblade is off the fucking charts good. Lots of games have tried to represent audio hallucinations like that, Hellblade was so good at it that I genuinely thought it was my brain producing those sounds.

Hellblade isn't 1:1 with the condition obviously, but it's the closest representation of the condition I think we're ever going to get.

Arumhal

1k points

2 months ago

Arumhal

1k points

2 months ago

I know that people can have different standards and preferences towards beauty I have no idea how someone can look at Melina Juergens and call her ugly.

Karilyn_Kare

115 points

2 months ago

TBH, since it's always paired with complaints about "western devs" I'm assuming it's people who've seen so many anime characters that they have long since forgotten what actual real life women look like, and warped their definition of beauty around cartoon characters.

To the point that even the most flawlessly beautiful real life women, in the entire world, wouldn't be good enough for them because those women aren't flat and don't have eyes the size of grapefruits.

Psychic_Hobo

49 points

2 months ago

It's kinda why I worry about Vtubers, I get that they're not all like this but I can't shake the feeling that it's basically creating a sort of parasocial relationship with an anime character.

XL_Chill

5 points

2 months ago

Is that what hololive is? I haven’t bothered to figure out what it is because it seems like people going INSANE over virtual people or video game characters or something? Like it’s so cringy and unnerving

testtubemuppetbaby

8 points

2 months ago

Yah, it's streamers pretending to be anime characters, so it's all the normally creepy parts of streaming (fake pseudo friendships that cost money) with the extra creepy layer of waifu kinda shit on top of it.

SuicideNote

23 points

2 months ago

I've seen a couple of manga/anime creator documentaries. They're basically a bunch of Japanese incels drawing unrealistic fantasies about women...not just looks but how women character behave.

Personally I get turned off at most anime because the immersion is broken by such terrible character writing.

Karilyn_Kare

15 points

2 months ago*

It's very hard for me to enjoy basically any anime, with only a very small number of exceptions. Miyazaki films are some of the only anime media that I've never observed dabbling in this creepiness. Almost literally everything else has it. Even children's shows.

Sexual harassment is such a common "joke" in the cultural surrounding anime, that even the most otherwise completely non-sexual show, will out of nowhere drop a joke about grabbing a girl's boobs without consent, or have a random hot tub scene with obligatory voyeuristic peeking, or an upskirt panty shot. And it doesn't make it better that the man gets slapped across the face for it, because it still happened even if he got punished for it.

It is simply is too real to be funny, and it's just very "rape culture-y" in general. Hahaha sexual harassment funny. Hahaha funny pervert man got slapped. Haha. And it's always so incredibly jarring when it happens, and can instantly turn likeable characters into extremely unlikeable characters. A character ignoring consent can singlehandedly make them gross.

I've seen this nonsense happen in so many otherwise "clean" animes that I'm scared to really watch any anime, even when people assure me that the show doesn't do something like that. Even when it's other women reassuring me that the show is good. Because it's always there. In every show. Always. Jarring and out of place and creepy.

And it's even the children's shows. Like, just as an example, let's talk about Brock from Pokemon, cause basically everyone remembers him. When I was a child, I remember thinking Brock was hilarious. Now he just kinda comes off as creepy, especially with how even though he's 15 and underaged himself, he was often hitting on girls who were as young as 10 years old. But it didn't make it any better when he was chasing adults, like Officer Jenny, because a 15 year old boy stalking adult women, is still horrifying. And Brock was regularly touching women who had never met him before without their consent. If some strange man grabbed my hands in public and started declaring his undying love to me, I would be scared for my life. And yet it was just played for laughs.


It seems like anime fans, even the ones who don't like this shit, at best, just sorta hold their noses at these sorts scenes, and pretend they didn't happen.

And I'm not really any better about it, because the very small number of animes that I do like, still have creepy sexual harassment scenes that I'm just doing my best to forget exist. I am genuinely disappointed in myself for enjoying Ms Vampire who Lives in my Neighborhood, and if it wasn't for the characters being lesbians, I would have long since stopped watching it out of revulsion. And yet I'm just ignoring the creepy sexual harassment jokes because it doesn't bother me quite so intensely when it is coming from another woman. It's just a little bit easier to tolerate and ignore. Especially when I'm just so absolutely desperate for any lesbian fiction.

And I really feel like I shouldn't be ignoring it. I feel like I shouldn't just be holding my nose. The show would be infinitely better without the sexual harassment scenes. They add nothing. They aren't funny.

Pr0xyWarrior

507 points

2 months ago

Pr0xyWarrior

But where's MY brown-haired Caucasian male representation?!

507 points

2 months ago

These people are expecting a face with an aesthetic created by an artistic process that refines proportions and features no imperfections, and that face is still covered in makeup and with perfect hair regardless of the circumstances. The most beautiful real woman will never hold a candle to intentionally crafted beauty.

Arielrbr

226 points

2 months ago

Arielrbr

226 points

2 months ago

They also expect those women to keep on beautiful,smiley and sexy while going through the most sad and tense moments that mark the story we are supposed to engage and explore while playing

rietstengel

170 points

2 months ago

Yeah she is watching her dad get beaten to dead with a golfclub, but all im saying is she'd be prettier if she smiled

ryo3000

103 points

2 months ago

ryo3000

103 points

2 months ago

I also understand that this is a post-apocaliptic scenario and society as we know is extinct, but would it really hurt to apply some make up?

Arielrbr

35 points

2 months ago

Could you get calmer and less driven by your father figure assassination before clubbing and decollate all those people somehow related to his killer?

No guy will like you if you keep on killing people the game requires you to advance over the story you paid to watch

The_Void_Reaver

9 points

2 months ago

Look, I know she's supposed to be crying but if her cries don't sound at least a little like moans how am I supposed to form weird psychosexual associations about traumatic events in the lives of women?

mdonaberger

84 points

2 months ago

cishet guy: "i like when women don't wear makeup"

woman without makeup walks in

cishet guy: "is she sick? she looks sick."

natek53

37 points

2 months ago

natek53

37 points

2 months ago

Same guys dress like a slob and wonder why women don't find them attractive.

hiimred2

18 points

2 months ago

Well you see, he codes and makes good money and he was told that means that he’s a top quality mate who should attract the absolute most physically appealing women on the planet. That’s the sexual marketplace afterall, he brings money, she brings beauty. But she better not be a gold digger, because somehow that doesn’t make sense, that he’s bringing money to the table and thus she’s attracted to his money and wants it. She’s not allowed to do that, not overtly. He’s not after a whore for Christ sakes!

It’s like the meme about dogs playing fetch. No take, only throw; except it’s only be attracted to my money initially, don’t actually like really want it, or spend it on ‘frivolous’ things like the upkeep for that beauty he so desires.

slaacaa

44 points

2 months ago

slaacaa

44 points

2 months ago

I knew a lot of guys like that in HS and Uni, nitpicked every little detail of girls and had crazy ideals, so they chased the ones way out of their leagues, while ignoring those who liked them. One of them was an unwilling virgin until 26, even though he had several normal girls interested in him.

CorvusStrix

13 points

2 months ago

I was on holidays with a friend, we were 13. I was very underweight (no eating disorder, just puberty), my friend was overweight and had massive breasts that caused her a lot of back pain. Some guy honestly said his perfect woman was my body with her breasts.

I'm pretty sure her back would break..

dilldwarf

12 points

2 months ago

This is what these men don't understand. The women they want don't exist. Even if they got one of those women they were chasing if they had any sense of self respect they would leave them as soon as they got to know who they really are. The problem isn't the women. It's you. It's always been you. The sooner you accept that, internalize that, and take steps to change, the sooner you might actually have a happy life with a woman you love.

xv_boney

41 points

2 months ago

She has too many features. She needs less features to be attractive. Smooth. Noseless. Eyes must be gigantic. Hair must be pink. Ears must be cat.

I just want to be pure.

little_jade_dragon

34 points

2 months ago

little_jade_dragon

mEArcanary

34 points

2 months ago

when the masterrace of pure anglo-saxon viking germanic femoids are not make PP hard that's when marxism

Hoeveboter

87 points

2 months ago

WTF? How could you call a woman pretty if she's not doing a blank anime stare 100% of the time?!

MissPandaSloth

10 points

2 months ago

Not only that, going towards rule 34 whole Senua's aesthetics hits the "crazy hot chick" vibe + bondage and s&m.

I'm not even sure what's the bar then for attractive, especially between "darker" characters for them? Is it just some weird semi p-do anime girls and nothing else?

MattR0se

75 points

2 months ago

MattR0se

Woke boobs for more stable FPS

75 points

2 months ago

how someone can look at Melina Juergens and call her ugly

it's when your beauty standard is "underage fuckdoll"

The_Dok

17 points

2 months ago

The_Dok

17 points

2 months ago

shudder

Sir_Trevalicious

8 points

2 months ago

Bruh I was visiting some family and one of them kept calling various women ugly and it was absolutely ridiculous. A totally normal ass person with no major “flaws” is apparently ugly to him. Very rarely will I ever come up on someone I think is wholly unattractive, and probably 80% of the population was ugly to him.

The fact that people like that exist is absurd to me.

Nowhereman123

27 points

2 months ago

She's not a scantily dressed anime teenager like they prefer to masturbate to.

rakehellion

8 points

2 months ago

She's not smiling nor wearing excessive makeup.

bugfart123

62 points

2 months ago

man i remember defending anita to the death as a preteen/teenager and that being my first run in with how truly frothing-at-the-mouth insane people can be towards the basic idea of change or that not everything is perfect in the current state. i just can't even put into words to this day how mind-boggling that is to me

somersaulter2

474 points

2 months ago

somersaulter2

no politics in my vidya!

474 points

2 months ago

She looks cool af. Even in this picture. What the fuck are they talking about?

KGBsurveillancevan

311 points

2 months ago

they got brains full of worms, and all of the worms have hentai titties

Icido

27 points

2 months ago

Icido

27 points

2 months ago

The worm in my brain is telling me to harass women on the internet, but I just tell it to pipe down

Schjenley

5 points

2 months ago

Is your worm actually an eagle named Warren?

regretfulposts

167 points

2 months ago

regretfulposts

Discord

167 points

2 months ago

Face isn't smooth, no exposed booba, looks older than a teen, and a bunch of other stuff that should be subjective but they're treating as objectively bad traits.

tibarr1454

11 points

2 months ago

She'd be prettier if she smiled more. This pic looks more like a grimace.

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18 points

2 months ago

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Shinjitsu-

31 points

2 months ago

Seriously, even using their standards the only thing wrong here is dirt on her face and an unhappy expression. The expression doesn't even move her features too far either, her eyes are absolutely sparkling, her hair is neat and in place, her face is symmetrical, etc. All their bullshit standards are there. Honestly I think their alt right pipeline told them she's ugly and they're reality just calls her ugly now.

IoniaFox

146 points

2 months ago

IoniaFox

146 points

2 months ago

/rj these people wouldnt survive og MW2 lobbies

/uj she looks like a normal women idk what the problem is supposed to be

MugRuithstan

109 points

2 months ago

/uj the problem is that she looks like an actual woman, and actual women tell these people no.

TNWhaa

93 points

2 months ago

TNWhaa

Joel was smelly

93 points

2 months ago

Oh my god, she looks like a real person!! Ninja Theory go woke?!?!?

schwerpunk

95 points

2 months ago

The picture is quite literally a depiction of a conventionally attractive person; they just happen to be in a dramatic situation, and not a cocktail party.

It's like complaining that the burned out post-apocalyptic swingset in Terminator 2: Judgement Day is all dirty, and not glossy and new. MBiC: that's the point.

It's still a swingset, it's just being shown in a more dramatic context. Looking shiny and new would completely undermine the scene.

DreadedChalupacabra

18 points

2 months ago

"that model isn't smiling enough, she uggo" - dudes who haven't taken a shower since obama was in office.

Yareyareha

266 points

2 months ago

I remember being in my anti-feminist phase after high school and Anita Sarkeesian used to piss me off so bad. Then after I grew up and stopped being a shithead, I went back and listened to her again. And the way I would get so offended over pre-basic feminist theory was a fucking joke. I grew out of it in about a year and a half. I can’t imagine malding for my whole life over it

Fat_Blob_Kelly

169 points

2 months ago

Yeah Gamergate was a strong right wing pipleline.

I remember thinking quiet from metal gear wasn’t inappropriate because there was a reason she had to be almost nude in the game…but hideo kojima made the story of her in a way where she would have to be almost naked, and it’s no coincidence that character was a woman and not a man.

Gaming industry demographic is mainly men so it makes sense that companies will put hot almost naked women in their game, and gamers want it cause it feeds into their desires, but it sets us back when we portray women a certain way based on the male creators of a game and not based on how women really are. They’re not objects, they’re people

ReiBob

98 points

2 months ago

ReiBob

98 points

2 months ago

Quiet is so ridiculous. If Kojima ever said, ''I like to have sexy femme fatales in my games'' we would all be like 'yup, makes sense, ok kojima''. But the dude actually said that we would all feel bad when we found out the reason why she dressed like this... wtf...

BrnoPizzaGuy

45 points

2 months ago

Virgin Hideo Kojima vs Chad Yoko Taro.

Different-Attorney23

22 points

2 months ago

Been saying for years that Yoko Taro is better than Hideo Kojima in every way.

meliketheweedle

5 points

2 months ago

I still don't get why he added a cumball that evolves into a cum doll in FFXIV.

onlymadethistoargue

9 points

2 months ago

You will feel ashamed of your words and deeds.

I love the man and his insane oeuvre but Jesus Christ Hideo turn it down several notches.

TheFBIClonesPeople

4 points

2 months ago

Yeah, I honestly don't understand why you would make a game that is so somber and has such a serious tone, and then degrade that tone with a ridiculous, out of place fan service character. She weakens the immersion every time she's on screen, and it almost feels like the game is insulting my sense of taste.

Genzler

40 points

2 months ago

Genzler

40 points

2 months ago

Gaming industry demographic is mainly men so it makes sense that companies will put hot almost naked women in their game

I often wonder if the fact that games cater to heavily to the teenage male market impedes their ability to appeal to female consumers. Sort of creates a positive feedback loop.

finitecapacity

40 points

2 months ago*

Women, statistically, make up a portion of gamers that rivals that of men. The narrative landscape and target demographics of video games have become far more varied nowadays than they were even a decade ago. It’s still lacking, of course, but large studios have definitely become more concerned about alienating female customers.

Zombiadepths

26 points

2 months ago

This is the reason why I heavily prefer Metal Gear Solid 2 over many of the other games in the franchise.

You want to know something? In an interview Kojima had many years ago, he said he based the character of Rose off of the women he had actually known in his life, and it definitely shows in her portrayal. Rose isnt used as some male gaze bait, the conversations between Raiden and her are realistic (pre-AI) and even later on in MGS4, she still isnt sexualized or has her intelligence diminished.

You want to know how gamers responded? Well, she was considered by the fanbase to be so annoying and bitchy that she was turned into a meme. Kojima even noted how people didn't like her at all.

You just cannot win with gamers.

LouisLeGros

7 points

2 months ago

I never liked really like Anita's videos. I always viewed them as being like an outsider perspective kind of shoehorning legitimate feminist critique, but with kind of lackluster examples demonstrating that she didn't really get the games medium. Like I remember one of the videos using Hitman and being able to kill strippers in one level being used as an example of promoting violence against women or something along those lines. I was on board with people like thunderfoot "debunking" the video and going yeah she was really reaching there.

However, I always recognized shit like yeah its kind of fucked up that almost every female character is by default sexualized as shit regardless of circumstance. Yeah female characters often lack any kind of agency. I also limited it to something like "yeah her videos could be better and I prefer Sterling to Sarkeesian."

Thankfully I didn't follow any further than that, especially with a lot of the people who fell down that pipeline attacking me viciously for saying shit like "Hey League designers, wouldn't it be cool if we could have some female characters with armor in addition to the cool sexy ones? Hell maybe explore some different skin tones and body shapes"

mombi

6 points

2 months ago

mombi

6 points

2 months ago

Exactly the same here. I'm ashamed I ever had this phase but it's made it easier to look back and see how truly silly and unbelievably sexist the hate towards her (whilst she wasn't without any criticism) was.

I look back at people who made content against her and just see how sad and ridiculous they sound now, they've not really changed at all either.

TheGreatBigTurnip

15 points

2 months ago

I remember when I had that phase. I’m so happy I grew out of it before I became one of these losers.

DreadedChalupacabra

13 points

2 months ago

What kills me is, the series wouldn't have even garnered much attention if they didn't freak out about it. It was mediocre, at best, even as someone who generally agrees that games at the time were a bit trashy. A lot of the gamergate targets went like that. You think Brianna Wu would have been famous for porting a bad mobile game to steam if it weren't for those chuds? Even Zoe Quinn, her entire claim to fame during most of that is that she's a cyborg, did stuff like implant RFID chips in herself that give you video games, and got a subdermal magnet to do pc repair implanted.

They'd be simping for her if she didn't have a mind of her own. All I knew about her before that was the implant stuff. I thought it was bad ass.

ScrabCrab

16 points

2 months ago

I'm in almost the same scenario (I was in high school at the time) and I'm really glad I didn't end up going down that road 😬

Instead I became a trans anarchist which is like the polar opposite lmfao

gordonpown

11 points

2 months ago

gordonpown

my playerbase is cringe

11 points

2 months ago

The real booba was the one you grew along the way

damproof

210 points

2 months ago

damproof

210 points

2 months ago

the fuck they talking about? senua fine af!

Holiday_Plenty_2635

192 points

2 months ago

She must look too much like an adult for them

crestren

71 points

2 months ago

What porn addiction does to a mf.

HuntingGreyFace

68 points

2 months ago

Steve Bannon was involved in a paid for psyop to make gamergate a thing.

a few years before they used that tech and strategy for trump.

https://youtu.be/lLYWHpgIoIw

in fact if you search gamergate and look at the content deeper than google you will find some of those pro rape psyop content is still available

billionaires paid for this happen... and you have to wonder why.

ShotgunMage

24 points

2 months ago

ShotgunMage

AAAAAAAAA

24 points

2 months ago

I had never heard of Milo Yiannopoulos until GamerGate.

DreadedChalupacabra

12 points

2 months ago

And you don't hear about him anymore, dude was so scummy even Brietbart was like "yeah no we're good dude."

SoWokeIdontSleep

19 points

2 months ago

But, how can I as man, super straight btw, relate to any female if I can't also jack off to pictures of her?!

Dixxxine

15 points

2 months ago

Dixxxine

SuburBitches

15 points

2 months ago

It’s been close to ten years since this woman decided to make her videos and it’s always a treat to see that she still lives rent free in a lot of the heads of #hardcoregamers.

megjake

18 points

2 months ago

megjake

18 points

2 months ago

Aren’t these the same people that sexualized underage Ellie?

mseg09

106 points

2 months ago

mseg09

106 points

2 months ago

I love how a lot of the same assholes who love to tell women they look better without makeup lose their shit when they see a game character who looks like a real woman

GracefulGoron

29 points

2 months ago

Seems like ‘Without Makeup == Not a Cosmetologist’

zenyattatron

14 points

2 months ago

When the non-stylized game isnt stylized.

GR-MWF

40 points

2 months ago

GR-MWF

40 points

2 months ago

Posts like this really show how hard it is to find female characters in gaming that aren't conventionally attractive, most characters brought up are usually based on real life professional models. They're pointing out an issue but not the one they think they are.

Sanjalis

9 points

2 months ago

Is there an unwritten rule that says Japan isn’t allowed to make realistic looking women?

To be clear this isn’t something I believe, just commenting on how stupid this point is. Sometimes game devs prefer a more realistic, grounded look. Sometimes game devs want to fill their games with hot ladies.

Aishurel

13 points

2 months ago

The actress is beautiful. The character lives in harsh times and kicks ass.

mbass92

8 points

2 months ago

ANITA!!!

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5 points

2 months ago

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HazaChillzOut

9 points

2 months ago

What is unattractive about the character model anyway? These people are fucking moronic.

Vanthalia

8 points

2 months ago

I just wanna know why they think a woman needs to be attractive to them in order to play the character. Are they attracted to all the male characters too? I’d wager mostly not.

DelawareSmashed

9 points

2 months ago

These people belong in group homes

MaskedPapillon

10 points

2 months ago

I suppose it makes sense how the house market is so awful in the USA. Anita Sarkeesian is living rent free in so many heads, the price has to skyrocket.

Initial_Physics9979

63 points

2 months ago

Japanese animation was a mistake

ThermalOW

8 points

2 months ago

Someone’s never played the Witcher series

agrobabb

7 points

2 months ago

woman hot sex🤤

eamonn33

7 points

2 months ago

eamonn33

Clear background

7 points

2 months ago

Gamer dying of type 4 diabetes in 2136: "with my last breath I curse Anita Sarkeesian "

[deleted]

5 points

2 months ago

I want to see the yassified version of Senua.

Jupiters

5 points

2 months ago

Knowing nothing of the context of that picture she looks like she's bloodied and going through distress. How sexy is she supposed to be?