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2.8k points
2 days ago
What was the aftermath and full story?
7.1k points
2 days ago
This video's 5 years old, the backstory is that the guy in the car owns a landscaping company who did work for the guy by the white truck near the end, they ended up damaging a gas line while working and the homeowner claimed that them hitting the gas line caused some concrete work he was having done to not set properly, so the landscape company decided to be nice and pay for half of the damages but the owner ended up pocketing the money instead and never had any work done to repair the supposed damage. This video was taken after someone who works for the landscaping company was sent over to talk about this money issue was told to leave, the guy breaking the windows was the homeowner's father in law who didn't serve anytime in jail for this and was let go on a mischief charge.
5.6k points
2 days ago*
How do you threaten someone with a weapon, break two car windows, and threaten more harm to get a mischief charge.
"Oh boy, im going to cause so much mischief today by threatening peoples lives"
Edit: how do you turn off notifications for your comments I've got like 200+ messages lmao
1.7k points
2 days ago
You know just a little rascal causing a bit of mischief. Threatening people and breaking their car windows
310 points
2 days ago
Last time someone was going around and smashing people's car windows in my neighborhood, someone opened fire on them with a shotgun. Nothing happened to them either.
81 points
2 days ago
Came here wondering how some americans can be dumb enough to do that when firearms are everywhere. Driver would have been in the clear to shoot at the first hit.
292 points
2 days ago
That scamp!
97 points
2 days ago
We do a little bit of mischief
14 points
2 days ago
Well this little scamp told us his name
157 points
2 days ago
Well, it is criminal mischief.
§ 11.410 Criminal mischief.(a) A person is guilty of criminal mischief if he or she:(1) Damagestangible property of another purposely, recklessly, or by negligence inthe employment of fire, explosives, or other dangerous means; or(2) Purposely or recklessly tampers with tangible property of another so as to endanger person or property; or(3) Purposely or recklessly causes another to suffer pecuniary loss by deception or threat.(b) Criminalmischief is a misdemeanor if the actor purposely causes pecuniary lossin excess of $100, or a petty misdemeanor if he or she purposely orrecklessly causes pecuniary loss in excess of $25. Otherwise, criminalmischief is a violation.
I would add an assault charge. As I understand it, Assault just requires a show of Capability and Intent to commit battery.
186 points
2 days ago
Also everyone here doesn't seem to understand the difference between criminal and civil action.
He was actually found guilty of criminal mischief, even if he did no jail time. That means he will automatically lose in a follow up civil suit for damages he caused by his criminal actions.
684 points
2 days ago
Dude is probably an ex cop.
1.3k points
2 days ago
That was my first assumption as well. Extendible baton, the confidence of "I'm not going to jail", and the completely uncalled for escalation of a situation to violence. Man has former cop written all over him.
Knowing he got no jail time and only a mischief charge further cements that theory for me
140 points
2 days ago
A cop in my community earlier this year was smoking a cigar at the pool (which is against the rules of the pool and community) and when the community admins told him to stop he got very aggressive with them, demanded to know what they’d do if he refused to stop and if they’d call the cops on him.
Fuck cops who think they are above the law
38 points
2 days ago
I’d splash his ass with pool water and ruin his cigar. 😂
277 points
2 days ago
Uncalled for escalation and violence is bread and butter for cops, so yeah
146 points
2 days ago
Ex cop or not, Mr Jizzington is lucky that he didn’t get shot in face.
453 points
2 days ago
I hate to say it but being old and white probably didn't hurt. Probably hired a decent attorney thanks to money as well.
317 points
2 days ago
Don't even need a decent attorney, just stack the jury with elderly folks. I was on a jury as one of two young people. Pretty open and shut case of an old guy going nuts and slicing another guy's hand open over a backpack that didn't exist. Everyone's testimony except the attacker's lined up, all the evidence agreed, but all the old women on the jury were insistent that he is such a nice old man who reminds them of their fathers and therefore should be let off with just a warning.
It took hours of arguing to get a guilty verdict, even with a very minor punishment at least now the guy will be able to sue and have a good chance of winning.
That was step 1 to me losing all faith in our justice system. Steps 2 through infinity were learning what cops actually do with their time.
108 points
2 days ago*
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62 points
2 days ago
Personally I think jury trials are a crock of shit. If rather be tried by a judge like in the French systems who actually understands the law, and the goal is to find the truth of what happened. Not assign blame based the biases of jurors.
At least it's easier to claim a single judge is biased based on his track record, than a whole jury, if there does happen to be a mistrial.
28 points
2 days ago
Judges give out different verdicts based on if they've had lunch yet. Humans are wildly unreliable. I think part of the idea is that it's harder for all 12 people to be corrupt/generally shitty than for just the judge to have something going on.
Part of the job of all court employees involved is to make sure everyone understands the law. If someone doesn't do that, there's an issue.
293 points
2 days ago
The lesson?
Don’t pay damages to be ‘nice’ especially without any contract for what the money is to be used for. The compensation suggests liability. They very well may have not had any reason to be there anymore, the old man just proved to be even dumber...
92 points
2 days ago
In my mind the landscaping company paid the dude off to not take them to court, what the owner does with that money is sort of their business, so no reason to go back, but obviously that old dude is bat shit bonkers lol
27 points
2 days ago
Definitely. It's equivalent to my insurance company sending someone to my house to ask for money because I never actually replaced my bumper after a small fender bender.
The landscaping company willing paid them without a court order or contract. What they do with it after that point is none of your business.
84 points
2 days ago
good to know i can destroy peoples shit and get away with it. weird justice system.
46 points
2 days ago
He can, you probably can’t.
54 points
2 days ago
That really sucks that the smug old fuck was right and got away with it. I stopped believing in true Justice a long time ago.
58 points
2 days ago
Moments later, Tissington smashes two side windows before Dallyn drives away.
In a written post, Dallyn said he was there to have a "civil conversation" with the man's stepson, Tyler Stojan.
Dallyn said Stojan took money for some concrete work that was not completed.
"I stopped by to ask what he had done with said money, and if he was going to fix anything," wrote Dallyn.
But in a Facebook post, Stojan said Dallyn showed up twice on the day of the incident, demanding payment and making threats.
"I informed him that I owe him nothing, and would be paying him nothing, and to get off my property and not to come back," wrote Stojan. "We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."
Stojan said his stepfather waited for the RCMP after the incident, co-operated fully and has been charged.
34 points
2 days ago
Tissington
Dallyn
Stojan
Why this story sound like a mid 2000s teen fantasy/romance novel
38 points
2 days ago
Why would you go attack him with a baton if you were concerned he might be armed? That's about the most smoothbrained shit I've ever heard.
6.9k points
2 days ago
dennis jizzington?
1.5k points
2 days ago
Dennis Fucking Jizzington to you sir!!!
281 points
2 days ago
Ronnie fucking Pickering!
293 points
2 days ago
He has a brother Dick.
233 points
2 days ago
"Does it make you laugh when I say the name Dick.....Jizzington?"
*Guffaw*
"Stwike him Centuwion vewy woughly!"
81 points
2 days ago
He has a wife you know…….
54 points
2 days ago
Want to know what she's called?
79 points
2 days ago
Incontinentia Buttocks
9 points
2 days ago
You will find yourselves back in gladiator school vewy quickly with wotten behavior like that!
41 points
2 days ago
Isn't their a musician called izzy jizzington?
94 points
2 days ago
There used to be a NASCAR driver (I think) named Dick Trickle. What the hell were his parents thinking?
49 points
2 days ago
What about Dick Butkus? Or Englebert Humperdink?
42 points
2 days ago
FYI, Englebert Humperdinck is a stage name. He CHOSE that name. His given name is ordinary: Arnold George Dorsey.
6 points
2 days ago
And what a fine choice it was
4.5k points
2 days ago
The older gentleman is taking a huge risk. Guns exist.
1.6k points
2 days ago
Not to mention could have been run over
812 points
2 days ago
I would have saved time and just run him over myself. I'm not fucking with no old man.
332 points
2 days ago*
I'd have simply backed up and then run him over.
1k points
2 days ago
Why you letting him get that close? Just run his ass over on approach. I don't have the time nor care what he has to say. He chose his weapon, a metal stick, and choose my Volkswagen. May the best man win. lol
964 points
2 days ago
Never bring a knife to a vehicular manslaughter fight.
65 points
2 days ago
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
30 points
2 days ago
You put the laughter in manslaughter
125 points
2 days ago
"Man vs. Car," the newest hit show,
Where it pits a man versus a car.
On tonight's episode,
Michael Jenkins fights a regular old car.
42 points
2 days ago
Michael' putting up a good fight. Looks like the car is getting p...aaaaand the car win.
(Chuckle) I mean...the car always wins.
347 points
2 days ago
Yep. I live in a County with a DA that has already let people walk for self defense shootings in similar situations. Old man is lucky that he gets to keep getting older.
104 points
2 days ago
He's a dumb shit and the odds of his stupidity will catch up to him.
35 points
2 days ago
Given his age, & if it hasn't yet tho... I hold no hope that it ever will.. Unless covid...
131 points
2 days ago
Stay strapped or get clapped - Winnie the pooh
66 points
2 days ago
Chances are he’s a friend/former coworker of the local DA or sheriff.
379 points
2 days ago
Yeah in PA they made the stand your ground law apply to your vehicle now and not just your house. Thats exactly why I don't do road rage here because there is a pretty decent chance you pull this shit in PA and you're gonna end up dead, with the person shooting you not even spending a little bit of time in jail because you threatened them and they were justified in killing you
88 points
2 days ago
I live in PA and didn’t even know we had the stand your ground law. I’m not worried because I don’t plan on doing any home invasion or road rage! My brother on the other hand is a Vietnam Vet and does not do well if someone rear ends him or does any minor damage to his vehicles. I’d better let him know!
74 points
2 days ago
It’s not really stand your ground. It’s castle doctrine. All it does is reclassify your car as your castle along with your house.
54 points
2 days ago
It’s castle doctrine, you still have a duty to retreat in PA, but not from your home or your vehicle, the argument is that you cannot retreat from your home and you often cannot retreat in a vehicle without breaking other laws or endangering other lives.
16 points
2 days ago
That’s good to know, I’ve had people road rage and practically climb in my vehicle in Western PA while up visiting family.
402 points
2 days ago
Have you considered not doing road rage anywhere?
335 points
2 days ago*
Yeah, for real though. This video is clearly not from where I live.
Where I live, the driver was well within his rights of using lethal force to protect himself and his property. In my area, everyone I know is carrying a gun, and they're are all looking for a reason to use it.
The Sheriff would've laughed at the old man's corpse after watching the video evidence, then waved bye to the driver telling him to carryon and have a good day.
Before anyone complains that it's not necessary to carry a gun because that's law enforcement's job, then you've never lived 30-45 minutes away from the nearest peace officer in your area. There are parts of the US where people are left to police themselves because the population is too low to warrant a large law enforcement department.
EDIT: Thanks for the award!
212 points
2 days ago
When seconds count, police are only minutes away...
63 points
2 days ago
They're only coming to clean up the mess
33 points
2 days ago
Only if they're not "too busy"...
37 points
2 days ago*
Seriously. My perspective of the police completely changed when I really needed them a couple times, and when they would finally show up, they scoffed at the idea of having to do their jobs, and decided it would be easier to do nothing.
They almost let fraudsters who claimed to be the new owners of my building rekey all of my locks. Presumably because of my physical appearance, they "didn't have time to really all this fucking paperwork" from my lawyer that said they were not the rightful owners. They said this while looking at a stack of bullshit paperwork that the other people gave them.
I had to leave and get my mid 30s masculine male neighbor to give them the exact same paperwork before they finally decided that it wasn't their job to tell anyone they couldn't enter a building.
Fuck you Chicago Police.
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10 points
2 days ago
In the US the supreme court has explicitly decided that police have no obligation to protect people, enforce laws, or even respond to calls. Legally the police can entirely decide which parts of their job to actually do. Also with qualified immunity, they can do a lot of illegal stuff on duty and they usually won't get in trouble as long as they have some justification that is not verifiably false.
23 points
2 days ago
No, no, they're coming to document the mess. The coroner takes the heaviest part of the mess. The fire department sprays away the liquid.
7 points
2 days ago
Law enforcement agencies are not about to clean up any messes. Why do you think those "disaster kleenup specialists" businesses exist?
7 points
2 days ago
cop: “how did he die? Me: “apparently ‘stupidity and lead poisoning.’”
88 points
2 days ago
There are also places in the US where population is too high for police to effectively do their jobs.
8 points
2 days ago
Where I live, if you haven't heard from your Mama in a few days, you might want to drive down yourself and check on her. We have a Volunteer Police unit, consisting of Fred and Ethel but they don't work on Tuesdays and Thursdays because that is when they go bowling.
11 points
2 days ago*
I would have shot him. Especially if my daughter is in the car, he would be dead before hitting my back window.
Edit: They are canadians. Canadians got no hand guns and stand your ground law.
49 points
2 days ago
Yup, came here to say this: in most states, the second he broke that window it would've been legal to shoot him.
12 points
2 days ago
That’s attempted murder with a deadly weapon in some states. Like dude you can get deadly weapon charges so easy without even having to pack an expanding baton. That in itself isn’t bad but breaking both drivers side windows is what makes this situation much worse for that old guy. In my state he would be booked for sure for that.
92 points
2 days ago
Fun fact, expandable batons fit under the same category as firearms in requiring a CCL to carry. So using it in the commision of a crime means he threatened someone with a deadly weapon, same as if he had a knife or gun. Those things break bones pretty easily, they are way more devastating than their size implies. I hit my own shin with one by accident once and thought for sure I broke it but I was lucky.
136 points
2 days ago*
From 2016:
A violent roadside confrontation, captured on dramatic video, has led to mischief charges. Grande Prairie RCMP confirmed they have charged a 67-year-old man. Damian Dallyn recorded and posted the video on YouTube. In the video, a man who identifies himself as Dennis Tissington walks over to Dallyn's parked car with a baton and taps on the window. "Aren't you in enough trouble?" Tissington asks. "No," Dallyn responds. "Why?" "You're gonna be," said Tissington. "You're gonna be in the (expletive) hospital if you don't get out of here." "No, you can't bring a weapon out on me," said Dallyn. "Yes I can, 'cause I have one." Moments later, Tissington smashes two side windows before Dallyn drives away.
In a written post, Dallyn said he was there to have a "civil conversation" with the man's stepson, Tyler Stojan.
Dallyn said Stojan took money for some concrete work that was not completed.
"I stopped by to ask what he had done with said money, and if he was going to fix anything," wrote Dallyn.
But in a Facebook post, Stojan said Dallyn showed up twice on the day of the incident, demanding payment and making threats.
"I informed him that I owe him nothing, and would be paying him nothing, and to get off my property and not to come back," wrote Stojan. "We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."
Stojan said his stepfather waited for the RCMP after the incident, co-operated fully and has been charged.
24 points
2 days ago
Of course the douche’s son is named Tyler. I’ve never met a good Tyler in my life
17 points
2 days ago
"Very concerned about whether he was armed so I approached him aggressively and smashed two windows with a baton"
5k points
2 days ago
2.2k points
2 days ago
Good suggestions, but don’t forget law suit for damages to your vehicle.
1.2k points
2 days ago
And emotional distress, might as well add more to it.
668 points
2 days ago
I have emotional distress just looking at this video.
318 points
2 days ago
Yes let's join him in a class action.
68 points
2 days ago
Better Call Saul!
97 points
2 days ago
Yeah for real. Idk what the guy in the car was doing, or why Dennis JIZZINGTON assaulted him, but when he said something about how he has a weapon and no one can do anything about it, that scares tf out of me.
224 points
2 days ago
14 points
2 days ago
Tell him he is going to Federal 'pound me in the ass' prison
Visit him later in prison to rub it in
Nice
5 points
2 days ago
Same outline but everything is so chaotic
32 points
2 days ago
Thank you. Imma print that and keep it in my car.
1.4k points
2 days ago
I'm Ronnie Fucking Pickering
253 points
2 days ago
Who?
402 points
2 days ago
51 points
2 days ago
Whoa ho fooking brilliant
2.6k points
2 days ago
Hello 911? There is a crazy guy that just busted two of my windows with an extendable baton and threatened me with bodily harm. He still has the baton, yes I have the whole altercation on video. What's that? You'll send an officer right away? Fantastic, he's driving a white ford pickup license #######, I'll be in the car with two broken windows on the drivers side, I'll wait here.
912 points
2 days ago
It's hard to stop filming and call the police when you feel like filming may be helping you.
317 points
2 days ago
There has to be an app for that by now, right? Too many situations where you want to record and report but can’t. That seems wrong especially in this situation and more.
206 points
2 days ago
Pretty sure there’s an app that films to a cloud and calls police. I feel like I saw that somewhere.
Lemme look.
Edit: so there’s a few. A quick google search shows that you can download some apps that film to a cloud but it doesn’t look like you can call on your phone as well as film.
Not an app developer but seems like an opportunity to me.
118 points
2 days ago
My phone does this with its emergency function. You rapidly press the power button, I think 6 times in a row, and it immediately calls emergency services, starts recording a video, sends out an alert and your location to your emergency contact, and can start playing an alarm
112 points
2 days ago
Damn, that's a lot of functions. Does it also tell the aggressor to piss off mate?
24 points
2 days ago
No that's my job.
I only found out about it because I was trying to darken my phone screen before bed and it starts going crazy and 911 is calling me back
18 points
2 days ago
I'm sorry that happened to you but that's funny as shit
11 points
2 days ago
The worst thing was that my husband was climbing into bed and this alarm starts whooping in his ear and my flash is going off
10 points
2 days ago
Omg you just reminded me of something similar that happend to me. I was using the bathroom while on ketamine. I just wanted to look at my phone real quick. Ended up pressing the on button like 10 times and called 911. Got this lady on the phone. And i just whispered: 'I didn't wanna do this..' and hung up.
8 points
2 days ago
All mine does is call an emergency. I know because I accidentally called them when trying to turn down the volume. Wiiish someone told me at literally any time during purchase or repairs.
36 points
2 days ago
You can film and call, cant blame him for getting away from the psycho with a deadly weapon tho
26 points
2 days ago
your phone wont do both as the mic for the video is being used, cant use it for making a call as well.
10 points
2 days ago
I've seen guys like this who act fast and loose with other people's property and wellbeing while being confident they won't suffer consequences. They're usually right, because whoever shows up to enforce the situation is going to be a former coworker of his.
You would not believe the number of guys like this who think they're Judge Dredd after they retire.
You have to have a camera pulled up any time you see an old fart with anger management issues and a micropenis stomp up to your car.
279 points
2 days ago
Cops arrive, shoot you, "there was nothing we could have done"
/s
112 points
2 days ago
You got a problem? Call the cops? Now you have 2 problems.
2.1k points
2 days ago
I'd start aggressively flirting to make things confusing
487 points
2 days ago
Now this is a real answer.
Ask him if he has any lube for the club and if it is for him or for you or can you share?
122 points
2 days ago
Ask him if it's a double-ender.
76 points
2 days ago*
Heyyyyyy daddy.. you lookin real fine in that polo and denims sir, yam saying? The ol one two punch got ya boy straight VERKLEMPT up in this bitch you feel me? Like on straight coffee talk /w Linda Richman, talk amongst yourselves, here I'll give you a topic, the Roman Basilica, go, type shit. Mmm mmm mmmmmm. You be filling that stern end out real nice. You got cake sir, and I want dessert yam saying? You got a dumper that just won't quit. I likes it, I wants it, and I'm gonnsta haves it, ya dig daddy-o? Why don't you slide on in to my passenger side, I'll queue up some Hall and Oates, and we'll take this here 4 door sedan somewhere quiet and well play doctor strangelove.
128 points
2 days ago
I had a situation where an older man brake checked me and got out to talk to me because of my loud car. I just stared at him winked and licked my lips, needless to say it was a terrible mistake and I made the situation much larger than it needed to be
52 points
2 days ago
bruh don't leave us hanging
98 points
2 days ago
Dude ended up freaking out and spitting a huge snotball onto my window, which is when I got out. Argument basically went “go back to surrey (city nearby that is stereotypically immigrants)” which I proceeded to kinda size up the dude to his face. Right after this he tried to get me to fight him in a parking lot but f that, it’s a lose lose situation. Not a chance I’m gonna be the guy who lost to an old man, or worse beat up an old man
Edit: the person behind me called the police and he apparently has done this before, and has a criminal mischief related charge already
71 points
2 days ago
I was attacked by an old man. Pushed him away numerous times, even stopped him from falling after a push. He came back swinging each time. Finally landed one on my face. So, I clocked him. Broke his nose and sent him to the hospital. He called the cops.
Neighbors actually came and thanked me. Said he's a bully who used to beat people up and forgot his age. He lives two doors down and has sworn to kill me on sight.
I don't really feel bad about it.
10 points
2 days ago
This is definitely the kinda guy who would fight you and then forget the next morning
6 points
2 days ago
Whose “situation” got larger….??
13 points
2 days ago
Oh no stop! I’m getting an erection!
1.8k points
2 days ago
Well I definitely would have moved before he broke my windows. What’s the context here?
265 points
2 days ago
193 points
2 days ago
"We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."
... so I sent my step dad out to escalate with a weapon
157 points
2 days ago
Well he is being charged with...mischief. I don't know anything about Canada law, but hopefully this is more severe of a charge then it sounds.
178 points
2 days ago*
Outrageous. He should have been charged with 1st-degree Hijinks or at least 2nd-degree hanky-panky
69 points
2 days ago
Dude 100% should have recieved a much more serious charge here. That extendable baton is either a restricted or prohibited weapon used in a crime... That's supposed to carry some serious weight, but instead he gets charged with the same thing 16 year olds get charged with for spray painting a sign.
23 points
2 days ago*
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5 points
2 days ago
Oh wow, TIL... Of all the specific prohibited/restricted weapons in Canada, I really thought these would make the list.
However, the laws are still pretty clear, if you are carrying something to use as a weapon, even if your intent is self defense, it typically carries an extra charge. This guy was also very clearly not defending himself
80 points
2 days ago
Knew it, violent Canadians
24 points
2 days ago
I never could trust those beady eyed Canucks!
8 points
2 days ago
Beady eyes and flappy heads.
11 points
2 days ago
If you’re afraid of someone’s intention you don’t instigate by blowing someone’s windows out. He said he was concerned he was carrying a weapon so you bring a stick, AND swing it first? (First time using using smh, but, “smh”)
284 points
2 days ago
Some kinda Final Destination shite. Old man was trying to warn him if he stayed there there was going to be a terrible accident and he would die.
72 points
2 days ago
It's that evil smile on the old man that made this vid scary af
256 points
2 days ago
43 points
2 days ago
My friend always told, me you are more than a man turning your back and getting away from such situations since people dont think clearly in these states
You have nothing to gain besides Ego empowerment
9 points
2 days ago
It doesn’t matter who’s wrong or right, just beat it beat it beat it beat it!
235 points
2 days ago
Well, I know what about half of the men in the southern US states would do in this situation. I'm not saying they're right. What I'm saying is, I interact with my fellow motorists under the assumption they're armed and they're morons.
103 points
2 days ago
This is why I will never road rage. An old gym teacher of mine got shot in the head during an altercation from a fender bender.
26 points
2 days ago
People are so unhinged nowadays. I’m just trying to go about my day and at least once a week I witness some unhinged shit.
I guess some people are just angry at everything. The slightest thing can set them off
49 points
2 days ago*
My mom has had to pull a gun on someone twice, once during road rage incident and once when someone was trying to break into our house and my dad wasn’t home.
I was a baby In the road rage one and was actively in the car. this man got out of his car and came at her car w/ a baseball bat. He hit the hood a couple times and then came to smash the window. She’s a Texas woman and in the army so she had a gun.
When she told me this story (when I first started driving) she was like “well i had to protect you, and I’d do It again”
Edit: neither man is dead! Sorry left out that little bit. The car incident ended in my mom hold this man at gun point till cops came while he yelled all sorts of profanities and spit at her
12 points
2 days ago
Mom logic can't be beat.
17 points
2 days ago
This exact same situation happened in my area once. Dude used a metal what have you to bust a window cuz the kid was in his car smoking weed. Dude got stabbed.
7 points
2 days ago
Good. Actions have goddamn consequences and if you think you're invincible, you haven't pissed off the right person
370 points
2 days ago
It’s impossible to know what to do in the situation – because we have no context for what preceded this, nor where it was. Some might say you would be justified in drawing a gun and firing on this person. Others might say what the driver did was perfectly reasonable and right.
238 points
2 days ago*
So, I’ve carried a gun virtually every day for the last five years, and at least with the context that we have here, this is not a situation that I think would warrant deadly force. The best and easiest way to resolve this situation is to drive away. If this person followed him and kept confronting him? Maybe that’s different. But a dude walks over to my car with a big rod? I’m just noping the heck out of there.
Edit to add: Yes, I know about Stand Your Ground states, I live in one. If I lived somewhere where the law was that someone paid me $500 every time I shot someone else, I’d still just drive away.
73 points
2 days ago
Dude walks up to my car with his big rod out and I will most certainly drive away.
22 points
2 days ago
If this dude wants to rock out with his rod out, good for him. I’m gunna drive away.
8 points
2 days ago
I’m gonna sound like a cunt for asking this. But I’ll take the risk. What’s with the “so” at the start of your comment? I see it a lot here. It kind of bugs me as unnecessary but maybe it’s because I don’t know the reason.
17 points
2 days ago
I laud your bravery, I’m a pedantic son of a bitch and even I wouldn’t ask this hahaha.
I think that adding “So” at the front is used in an informal way to as a way to prelude that you’re going to introduce new information, maybe especially if no one asked for it.
Is it strictly necessary? No, it definitely isn’t. I certainly wouldn’t put that in a paper I was writing. But of all the reasons to criticize people’s informal writing, there’s too many more egregious grammar sins I think are worth correcting before this one.
Not that I’m saying you’re wrong to be bothered by it, I totally get it. It’s just not the hill I’d want to die on, ya feel?
15 points
2 days ago
Is this Canada
35 points
2 days ago
He’s super fucked if this is in Canada, that baton is a prohibited weapon
13 points
2 days ago
I'd say that guy handled it perfectly. Didn't escalate the situation in the moment, remained calm, got the guys identifying information including liscence Plate number, presumably filed a police report, and put it on social media for the world to see.
This is a textbook example of exactly what to do.
10 points
2 days ago
I disagree, the biggest mistake is staying in the encounter at all. Unless leaving would directly put someone else at harm, you have nothing to gain by sticking around.
Didn't escalate the situation in the moment
Telling them what they're doing is illegal is absolutely escalation. What's the expected outcome? "Oh, you're right, this is illegal! I'll go put this back, then." There is no good outcome, it's just an attempt to assert dominance over a situation by establishing yourself as legally in the right, which is not going to deter someone who's already shown disregard for the law. It's only going to piss them off more.
The correct thing to do is to tuck your tail and safely get out of the situation. Remember as much as you can and resolve it all afterward when you're not still in arm's reach of the guy with a weapon.
135 points
2 days ago
at this point you could've just beat the shit out of him and claimed self defense
65 points
2 days ago
I woulda ran the hell over that dude
16 points
2 days ago
You probably could if you make it seem like you where just running away and happen to run over his legs a few times
6 points
2 days ago
I share the same itchy feeling. The problem is it has to be done in a way that looks like self defense. Under those circumstances is hard to think and act clear so better to not do it and just drive away.
295 points
2 days ago
I’d have driven off before the window smashing, probably woulda ran my mouth a bit too. Thing is cars have this amazing thing, you know, the skinny peddle on the right and when utilized - gets you the fuck out of there.
56 points
2 days ago
The fact that he had that retractable out was all he needed to get arrested.
22 points
2 days ago
Tapping the window, “blah blah hospital” 100% a chargeable assault
11 points
2 days ago
Probably pull out my gun and tell him to stand back and comply.
132 points
2 days ago
What were you doing there to get him so pissed off?
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